SillyDog701

[Mandrake]

I thought this could happen, Novell needs to bolster it's falling income from NetWare, they are doing this by selling Linux stuff too, looks like Novell could begin being profitable again.

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[Edward]

I was thinking of trying out another Linux distro to see how it compares with SuSE, but now after seeing this, I'm sticking with Novell/SuSE.

I haven't bought a copy of version 9 yet though, still running 8.2 here.

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[Mandrake]

Novell is a very large company, that means they will be able to do heaps to the Linux distro. If you have broadband, why not just download the ISO files and burn them to a few CDs?

They are also in another good position, because of the fact that Novell owns Ximian - the creators of Evolution (The best email client on Linux) and also the Gnome GUI. I think you can say goodbye to KDE in Novell/SuSE Linux . . . (Not that it bothers me, I have always prefered Gnome to KDE).

If anyone was interested, Novell paid $210 Million IN CASH to buy SuSE!

Also:

IBM wants Novell back in the Linux business and that's why IBM is providing the backing for the deal . This is also tied in with the fact that Novell retained the right to require SCO to "amend, supplement, modify or waive any right" under the license agreements sold to SCO for UNIX (and if SCO did not comply, Novell could exercise those rights itself on SCO's behalf). IBM is interested in crushing SCO and Novell needs a distro to further it's investment in the Ximian desktop. It's a symbiotic relationship that will cause the fall of Darl McBride

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[Edward]

I want to really try out Gnome, but need to figure out how to copy the desktop shortcuts that appear on the KDE desktop, over to Gnome.

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[Mandrake]

Just create a directory on the hard disk, say /tempdir and copy all your shortcuts into that directory. Then when Gnome is installed, copy all the shortcuts from /tempdir to the desktop and remove the /tempdir directory.

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[Edward]

Right-clicking anywhere on the Gnome desktop brings up its menu, there is a selection New Launcher which does the same thing as Link to Application in KDE.

On the Linux box (166 MHz Pentium), Gnome loads in a lot faster than KDE does.

One difference is that the Classic theme in Mozilla 1.5 looks different. Under KDE, it has the blue gradient, but under Gnome, it's all grey (a la Windows).

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[DJGM]

Novell is a very large company, that means they will be able to
do heaps to the Linux distro. If you have broadband, why
not just download the ISO files and burn them to a few CDs?

There are no ISO files of the full SuSE Linux distro available to download from anywhere.
The only SuSE Linux ISO's available are the Live Eval version of the distro, which boots
and runs from a CD, plus a 19MB boot ISO which enables you connect to the SuSE ftp
servers (or mirrors) so you can download and install the entire OS via the internet.

Although, the acquisition of SuSE Linux by Novell could well change that.

I think you can say goodbye to KDE in Novell/SuSE Linux . . .

As the K Desktop Environment is by far, the popular desktop GUI on Linux, it'd be a
phenomenally HUGE mistake to remove access to KDE from any Linux distro. If that
were ever to happen with SuSE Linux, I would no longer use, or support the use
of SuSE Linux. I would replace SuSE Linux on my PC with another popular Linux
distribution at the drop of a hat . . . or the drop of a RedHat!

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[Edward]

I was thinking of this myself. With Novell in the picture now (Hooray!), I wonder if perhaps Gnome will be the default desktop for SuSE at some point, with KDE as the option (reversed of what it is currently)?

Which reminds me, how about a :gnome: emoticon?

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[Edward]

After installing Gnome, I discovered that both Netscape 7.1 and Mozilla 1.5 now run a lot faster on the Pentium (166 MHz) system when Gnome is loaded. No more 10-second delay waioting for the full address to appear in the browser after it's typed.

Could there be some unnecessary bloat in KDE, which causes both browsers to run extremely slow on this system?

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[Mandrake]

With Gnome set as the default in both Redhat and SuSE/Novell, that could change, Novell would likely do what Redhat has done, Gnome as the default but KDE is in there as an optional component.

A Pentium 166 isn't excactly a fast system, I'd not run anything more than Communicator on it. I find Netscape or Mozilla painful on my 300mhz (128mb ram) Windows 95 system, compared to my fast machine that loads Firebird in all of two seconds!

For comparison: The Novell buyout of SuSE priced the company at some $210 million dollars (USD) - by comparison, right now Redhat is worth about 11 times more than than SuSE. Shares of Novell rose approx 20% with the buyout of SuSE!

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[Edward]

I was very surprised to see Novell stock rise so much, apparently they think it's a good move.

I tried running 4.8 on this, and pronptly had a printing problem. I attempted to print a simple web page, garbage went to the printer as a result, and it was literally non-stop junk. The only way I was able to fix this, was to delete 4.8, 7.1, and Opera (as Opera also creates a Netscape directory for plugins, and wasn't sure which directory the print file was in). Once all this was gone, I rebooted the system, and the junk printing stopped. I then reinstalled these.

If I had known Gnome was this good (and fast), I would have begun to use it months ago instead of KDE. But I think it's good to have experience using both desktops. So I guess WRT Gnome, I'm in a learning curve.

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