SillyDog701

[Tham]

Nature's Best of UK's new website, where I sometimes
order my supplements from, seems to have been configured
only for the IE engine.

http://www.naturesbest.co.uk


On Seamonkey 1.1.19, it says :

" Redirection limit for this URL exceeded. Unable to load the
requested page. This may be caused by cookies that are blocked. '


I have set it to accept all cookies. Opens on IE 7 without any problems.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100228 SeaMonkey/1.1.19

[Fulvio]

It may be hard to tell. I don't have the old SM 1.1.19, but rather the new 2.0.11, and I don't subscribe to Nature's Best. I can see everything, without signing in. Of course, if you see what is available, but you don't after a login, you may have to rely on a program like IE Tab. You will have to do a search to find which version will suite you best.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101203 Firefox/3.6.13

[Tham]

Thanks, Fulvio.

There is no need to log in, it's just a health food store
public site where anyone can view their supplements.

It's only when you wish to purchase do you need to register
and log in to the secure account pages, normal for most stores.

I think it's their server configuration.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100228 SeaMonkey/1.1.19

[Fulvio]

So, are you having problems, just, viewing the site, or when you login? My previous reply said that I can view everything, using Firefox 3.6.13 or Seamonkey 2.0.11. And, this happens without using IE Tab.
Your reply does not tell me when you get the message. The only difference is that you use an older version of Seamonkey.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101203 Firefox/3.6.13

[Tham]

It's when I view it.

I can't even view the front page - it's blank, so
naturally I cant log in as well.

Had no problems with their previous website
several months ago.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100228 SeaMonkey/1.1.19

[Tham]

No problems with Healthspan here.

http://www.healthspan.co.uk/

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100228 SeaMonkey/1.1.19

[Fulvio]

I have no idea what Healthspan has to do with Naturebest.
All I know is that I copied the link which you provided, and pasted in my address toolbar, in Firefox 3.1.13, and clicked on the link which you provided with Seamonkey, and I got everything that Naturebest has to offer. As I said, I don't have SM1.1.19, but the behavior should be the same in SM2.0.11. And what do you mean by previous website. Is it a redesign? You may try to e-mail for assistance, at: info@naturesbest.co.uk
I checked the cookie manager, and I found four cookies for naturebest. If you have them, delete them, close SM, and take another look. I did not have to do anything like that, but that's all I can do.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101203 Firefox/3.6.13

[Tham]

The Healthspan website opening normally was merely
given as an example to indicate my browser is ok, and
that there is something wrong with the Nature's Best one.

Yes, obviously when I mentioned that Nature's Best
had opened normally all this while in Seamonkey, even
in its (Seamonkey's) previous builds, it means that
their current site has been reprogrammed - HTML,
scripts, style sheets, etc.

I think they must be using Microsoft's VB script in their
code, common problem with many other sites which open
with a blank in Seamonkey, but normally in IE.

It's alright, just a minor problem anyway. I started this thread
more as feedback on a particular website's bugs.
I'll just use IE to view their products, then fax in my order as usual.

If you ever happen to go looking at many of the local Malaysian
sites - both private and government, you'll find that most of them
don't function in Seamonkey, only in IE. They are usually programmed
by young IT graduates who know only how to program in IE's VB script
for compatibility with IE. Virtually all have never heard of Seamonkey,
let alone Gecko. Many are badly programmed with countless Javasript
bugs and nonfunctioning buttons, even in IE.

Most of these young kids love to use fanciful and "flashy" fast-flickering
Macromedia Flash to build their pages, especially the front home page,
thinking they are the latest fashionable "in-thing", not realizing their
danger in causing photosensitive epilepsy in subsceptible people,
especially children.

This was exactly the case with one local private hospital's website,
Sunway Medical Center, which I have stayed in before. I immediately
sent in an email "screwing up" their administration for letting this
sort of thing happen even in a hospital's website, asking if they had
ever heard of photosenstive epilepsy.

They redesigned their front page right after that, taking out the fast-
flickering flash.


One of the local Seamonkey developer in Ipoh, Malaysia here was
shocked to find that there was actually another Seamonkey user here
in Malaysia, when I took part in the Mozilla forum !

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100228 SeaMonkey/1.1.19

[Fulvio]

I know that the posts have been unusually long, but I will summarize my previous suggestions.
1.Seamonkey 1.1.19 is an old version. As far as I know it is end-of-life. Version 2.0.11 is the current version, which I have been using, with no problem.
2. Very likely the programming of the site is a problem, but I think that it should apply to me, as well.
I know that certain website do not accept any type of Seamonkey, suggesting that I use or download Internet Explorer, Firefox, or Safari. At this point, I cannot prove your point, as my Seamonkey is at least eleven version more recent than yours. If you go to the Seamonkey website, you will not be able to download 1.1.19, other than under "older versions".
3. I mentioned IE Tab (for Seamonkey), which would allow you to use Seamonkey as if it was IE.

There is not much that I can do other than to tell you that Seamonkey 1.1.19 is not the gold standard.
I am not sure but I think that you can download and install Seamonkey 2.0.11, and run it even if 1.1.19 is still present, as the two programs are installed in different folders, and use different profile formats.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101203 Firefox/3.6.13