2008 U.S. Presidential Election

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Whom do you support?

Poll ended at Wed 17 Sep, 2008 5:55 pm

Barack Obama (Democratic Party)
9
100%
John McCain (Republican Party)
0
No votes
Bob Barr (Libertarian Party)
0
No votes
Chuck Baldwin (Constitution Party)
0
No votes
Cynthia McKinney (Green Party)
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 9

Postby Antony » Sat 13 Sep, 2008 11:55 pm

James wrote:Furthermore I will say that my wife and I are slowly moving over to the McCain/Palin camp after being supporters of Obama. One of the main reasons to cause this shift is the media attacks on Sarah Palin. The media has tried to dig up as much dirt as possible on this woman and frankly,
Well, we haven't had much media report on "Sarah who?" here. Some, but not much negative.

I would guess that media (and people) had been focused on potential first black US President for quite a while, and the new focus is, of course, the potential first (if I am correct on this) female US Vice President.
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Postby James » Sun 14 Sep, 2008 1:24 am

Since Palin has been brought on-board, McCain's numbers have risen dramatically. In fact, in the Rasmussen polls he now leads Obama by 2 percentage points. Thus the liberal media has gone all-out in an attempt to smear her (she's incapable of being a VP since she is mother of five children, she's putting her career first at the expense of a Downs' Syndrome baby and so forth). These next few weeks are going to be very nasty ones in terms of mud-slinging on both sides. It's gotten so that my wife and I generally ignore what comes from MSNBC and CNN. We'll form our own opinions without the need of having liberal journalists dictating how we should be voting. Now... whether or not we will return to Obama depends a great deal on how he conducts himself over these next weeks and whether or not he returns to the "real" issues and avoids the Midnight Enquirer-type trash talk.

That's probably all I should say, Antony. As I mentioned before, Orthodox generally do not get involved in proselytizing others. We try to live our lives in a private manner, only sharing what we believe should someone ask. And if that turns into a debate or a ridiculing session, we simply withdraw. Our attitude is: you do what you feel is right for you and we'll do the same.

All the best. :)
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Just one of hundreds of examples

Postby James » Sun 14 Sep, 2008 11:06 am

btw: this is just "one" of hundreds of media slurs being hurled at McCain/Palin. In this latest scurillous story Palin is supposed to be predatory upon teenage boys and McCain is supposed to have been treated very gently by his Viet Cong captors. And it is only the tip of the proverbial iceburg. The media lies and slander are actually beginning to turn people away from Obama and his message which is somewhat sad since I initially agreed with much of his platform. Anyway... if you're interested take a look at the following story that appeared online yesterday.

MEDIA MATTERS
Ex-Air America host: Palin can't be trusted with teen boys

Randi Rhodes follows up claim McCain was treated well by Vietnamese captors

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Posted: September 13, 2008
11:50 pm Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily

WASHINGTON - Former Air America host Randi Rhodes followed up her claim that
presidential candidate John McCain was actually well-treated as a prisoner
of war in North Vietnam with an insinuation that his running mate, Sarah
Palin, can't be trusted around teen-age boys.

Explaining to her listeners on Friday who Alaska Gov. Palin is, she said:
"She's the woman who shows up at the kid's birthday party and starts opining
about everything from politics to lawn care. This is the woman that knows it
all. Will shout you down, will get revenge on you. That's who she is. She's
friends with all the teenage boys. You have to say no when your kids say,
'Can we sleep over at the Palins'? No! No!"

Earlier in the week, Rhodes attacked McCain's life story, claiming that
during his POW captivity in North Vietnam he was "well-treated, actually"
and that despite his claims of suffering brutal torture, his wife "knows the
truth too."

Rhodes' radio program is syndicated on Nova M Radio, which also operates a
radio station in McCain's home state of Arizona and calls itself "the future
of Progressive Talk."

She said McCain was "very friendly with the Vietnamese" and that "they
called him the Prince." She claims he was well-treated by his captors
because he traded propaganda interviews for good treatment.

Rhodes concluded those remarks by claiming that national Republican figures
continue to tell a story contrary to her version of the events and that
McCain's wife limits herself to saying only "I think what my husband did in
Vietnam was heroic" because, according to Rhodes, Cindy McCain knows that
her husband's story is exaggerated.

Rhodes' version of McCain's imprisonment and description of it as being
"well-treated" seems difficult to reconcile with McCain's version of the
events.

In his autobiographical account, "Faith of My Fathers," McCain describes
having his shoulder broken with the butt of a rifle, being stabbed in the
groin with a bayonet, being refused medical treatment for multiple broken
bones and attempting suicide to escape the pain.

"They cracked several of my ribs and broke a couple of teeth," wrote McCain.
"Weakened by beatings and dysentery, with my right leg again almost useless,
I found it impossible to stand.

"On the third night I lay in my blood and waste, so tired and hurt that I
could not move. Three guards lifted me to my feet and gave me the worst
beating yet. They left me lying on the floor moaning from the stabbing pain
in my re-fractured arm."

Rhodes' Nova M Radio website describes her as "the #1 Progressive Talk host
in the nation" and claims, "Randi is impeccably researched and infectiously
funny; she pulls no punches and never fails to both enlighten and
entertain."

A former host on the nationwide counter to conservative talk radio known as
Air America, Rhodes lost her position in April after an expletive-filled
rant against Democratic politicians Geraldine Ferraro and Hillary Clinton.

Rhodes also stirred controversy when she urged looting in the
hurricane-devastated Gulf Coast and threatened the life of President Bush on
air.
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Postby pastelGIRL » Fri 26 Sep, 2008 11:57 am

McCain was held as a POW - he had a different experience than the guy/gal on the front line. He also had an affair with and then married his billionaire heiress - his plan would only lower the discretionary budget - Obama chose to work in the south side of Chicago - he was raised by a single parent - he worked to help those less fortunate. He married a gal who came from a blue collar family and they come off as gracious and genuine. McCain seems outdated and angry and negative. I trust OBAMA for my safety as well as my pocketbook. We've had enough old crusty conservative white guys - I'd prefer to see a woman as president. Obama is just a good, decent human being. He cares. McCain is back and forth...saw their TV ads in pollclash and its getting warmer this time. well you can see the TV ads in http://pollclash.com
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Postby Antony » Thu 09 Oct, 2008 8:11 am

Few days old news.

Sarah Palin started 'smear tactics' and refuses to back down.

She told a rally Obama is a friend with an extremist from a 1960's student group which bombed a government buildings.

She said:
"I think it's fair to talk about where Barack Obama kicked off his political career, in the guy's living room."
"It's really important for Americans to start knowing who the real Barack Obama is."

Obama admits to working with William Ayres but denies a close relationship.
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Postby James » Thu 09 Oct, 2008 9:08 am

Perhaps, Antony, but there's smearing going on on both sides of the political divide. This has become a mud-slinging affair more so than many past elections and I'm not particularly proud of it. But even more than that, I'm downright disgusted with the liberal media's tactics. Frankly, I know longer even bother to listen to the lies and distortions that come from the American press. If I want to know what is going on here in America, I try to listen to the BBC or some other foreign source.
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Postby Antony » Sun 12 Oct, 2008 9:02 am

Today's news (in Australia) on US Election:

The colour of Barack Obama's skin is making the US election campaign anything by black and white. Some polls suggest it will help him become President, but Democrat supporters are worried white Americans who say they'll vote for him are lying. (...)
Lowered her voice and says "Well, it's because he's black." (...)
In a new Gallup poll, 7% of respondents said they are less likely to vote for Obama because of this race.


And the news on vice-presidential candidate:
Sarah Palin has denied she abused her power while she was Alaska's Governor. An investigation has found the Republican let her husband pressure officials to get her ex brother-in-law fired from his job as a state trooper.
(...)
the report found Palin was guilty of violating ethics laws.


(7News, 12 Oct 2008)
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Postby Antony » Fri 17 Oct, 2008 9:06 pm

Last night's only news on US Election: Joe the plumber was the winner!

news clip (H.264, 1 min 37 sec)
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Postby Antony » Tue 04 Nov, 2008 4:55 am

Although I am not into political issues, I've been following the US Election reports here.
A few things I'd like to point out. The US Election has not been the main headline in Australia (except tomorrow), the news reports here are generally focused on the "observation" rather than either party's political points.

I personally don't think that news media are all favoured to Obama, but Obama is a much better prepared candidate (compared to McCain).
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Postby Antony » Wed 05 Nov, 2008 9:12 am

Congratulations to Mr Barack Obama.

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Barack Obama is now the 44th US President Elect.

For those who are interested. Messages from Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd,
“Senator Obama's message of hpe is not just for America, it's for the world.â€
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