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[Antony]

Actually, the marketing is different. Netscape had Netscape Travel, Netscape Shop, and even Netscape Credit Card.

I remember when the Netscape Shop button first appeared on the Communicator toolbar and thinking how AOLish, to push it on users. It was a real pain, too, since they placed it right next to the Stop button (on purpose?) and I kept on hitting it!

Before the Shop@Netscape, there were other businesses.
Any company needs to find a way to survive...

By hitting the Shop@Netscape button, and actually shopping at Netscape, you are actually helping the economics.

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[Alice]

Any company needs to find a way to survive...

By hitting the Shop@Netscape button, and actually shopping at Netscape, you are actually helping the economics.

That Shop button created more negative feelings towards the product, in my opinion, since it took up valuable screen space, was prone to be clicked in error and couldn't be removed without editing the prefs.js file.

In The words of Blake Ross:
[quote]Giving people unadulterated access to the web became something of a religion, and every wasted pixel, button or dialog that impeded it was a demon that nagged at us. Every time someone was “pulled out of the dream", every time they had to stop and realize that they were using a browser called Firefox and not just the amorphous “Web,â€

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[Ramona]

What is the link for your out of context quote?


EDIT: Not meant to imply that I thought the original meaning would have been understood differently within the context of the entire article.

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[Alice]

I don't know what you meant to imply, if anything, by "out of context" but if you look back a bit in this thread you'll find a link to the source article by Blake Ross, January 22, 2005 The Firefox religion in my 22 Apr, 2005 4:26 pm post:

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[Ramona]

I didn't mean to "imply" anything. The quote is out of context, and I would like to read the entire article, blog, whatever. I am very interested in Blake Ross. Relax...

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[Alice]

I didn't mean to "imply" anything. The quote is out of context, and I would like to read the entire article, blog, whatever. I am very interested in Blake Ross. Relax...

I just edited my earlier reply to add a direct link for you.

When you say that something is "out of context" it usually implies that the quoted content would have been understood differently within the context of the entire article. All you needed to do was to ask for the reference.

I'm very relaxed

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[Alice]

I am very interested in Blake Ross. Relax...

For Ramona and other Blake Ross fans.......Relax, kick back and enjoy:

http://www.mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=6496
Blake Ross Takes a Seat on 'The Red Couch'
Sunday April 24th, 2005

Last month, Shel Israel interviewed Mozilla Firefox developer Blake Ross for The Red Couch, a book that aims to convince businesses of the benefit of weblogs. In the first part of The Red Couch interview, Blake talks about the importance of weblogs and community marketing in publicising Firefox. In the second interview installment, he discusses Spread Firefox.
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[jsjag]

I agree and that is why the entire FF thing reminds me of fast food place marketing to kids. Come get our happy meal and get a toy or a game. Come now......over 45 million FF users, give me a physical break. I'm not an IE user (unless forced to use it) but I really, really doubt if that many people are running FF. Oh the counters, there's no way they could be wrong or manipulated could they???????/

Some of them even make sense, such as this article, from the same "poptech" site as the "conspiracy" article:
http://poptech.blogspot.com/2005/01/fir ... igion.html
Firefox - A New Religion?

The Religion:
I've never seen anything as crazy as the Firefox Followers who bombard everyone with "Use Firefox, Take Back the Web!" "Firefox Rules!" Slogans, signatures advertisements ect... Its not just in forums its now in magazines, newspaper ads, bumper stickers, it's everywhere and it's down right annoying. This is like the Jehovah Witness follower who keeps coming to your door even though you're not interested. Honestly I'm a little scared that there is a generation of kids out their who have been brain washed to spending a good portion of their life promoting a web browser as if it was their religion.

Firefox is a just a web browser, after all. Spreadfirefox.com seems a little over the top...... And the Mozilla Store? The CD and guidebooks are fine, but T-shirts? Mugs? Plush Toys?

A very interesting link. thanks.
What's wrong with those young preachers (mainly college students)? A number of them block every single advertisements from every website they visit. extremely unethical and ripping off webmasters.
And they are posting affiliated links.

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[Alice]

the entire FF thing reminds me of fast food place marketing to kids. Come get our happy meal and get a toy or a game.

McFirefox? Or maybe, McZilla? I'm lovin' it!

Come now......over 45 million FF users, give me a physical break.

The Spread Firefox counter measures downloads, not users, and is now over 49 million. The releationship between number of Fx downloads and number of users is anybody's guess... it was discussed here:
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/007972.html
April 17, 2005 forty-six million firefox downloads

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[Andrew T.]

Oh the counters, there's no way they could be wrong or manipulated could they???????/

No, but they can be misinterpreted.

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[Alice]

.....as 50,000,000 Downloads Approaches
See http://www.mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=6507

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[Antony]

.....as 50,000,000 Downloads Approaches
See http://www.mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=6507

Very impressive.

I just wonder if Mozilla Foundations charges 99 cents per download... how many people would buy Firefox.

Let's take a good example from our beloved online legal music store, iTunes Music Store (iTMS), from Apple Computers.

Apple took 11 months to reach the first 50 million downloads, reached [sdt=6338]100 million downloads[/sdt] last July, then [sdt=7836]200 million downloads[/sdt] last December. iTMS reached [sdt=8160]250 million downloads[/sdt] in January this year. Recently, in March, iTMS reached [sdt=8455]300 million downloads[/sdt].

It's not hard to figure out during the period of December 2004 to March 2005, iTunes Music Stores sold 100 million songs in 3 months period.

Apple's iTunes Music Store is not just the legal online music download source, it's also one of the major music stores where you can get exclusive songs. You can support SillyDog701 by purchasing legal music from iTunes Music Store via any iTunes icons in any SillyDog701 page. (Other ways to support SillyDog701.)

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[Antony]

I agree and that is why the entire FF thing reminds me of fast food place marketing to kids. Come get our happy meal and get a toy or a game.

When McDonald's has Snoopy toys for their Happy Meal, I will have Happy Meals until I collect all.

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[Andrew T.]

Since there now have been over 50 million downloads of Mozilla Firefox downloads, there is a new thread created to cover that topic, and I don't want this one to drift off-topic again, I have locked it.

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