7.2 is Nothing Special

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7.2 is Nothing Special

Postby DiscoFever » Mon 23 Aug, 2004 9:29 pm

I feel that no effort was made when putting Netscape Brand on Mozilla 1.7.
The Netscape toolbar, which was made for IE was thrown in just so that the "Netscape" name is there along with the Logo. The mail button was not built in, or the AIM button or the RADIO button. ( At least not in my version. I tried several times and could not install those buttons through the Prefrence section). I'll stick with Mozilla 1.7. :lol: Just my Opinion Folks. Don't jump all over me.. :lol:
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Postby Wellander » Mon 23 Aug, 2004 9:37 pm

Hi,
O.K.
It is at least nice to see a netscape Branded browser again.
It does have those things too.
Like my netscape, radio, and shop.
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Postby Fulvio » Mon 23 Aug, 2004 9:58 pm

I will give a complete report soon.
I don't know why those buttons misbehave. I have had no problem.
I think that NS7.2 should be compared with 7.1, and it is a no contest.
I am using 14 tabs in 7.2 vs. 4 in 7.1. In addition, I have six more buttons in the prefbar.
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Postby James » Mon 23 Aug, 2004 11:51 pm

To my way of thinking, if one is going to choose between NS 7.2 and Mozilla, I'd give the nod to Netscape. Now... Firefox is a different kettle of fish. When it hits 1.0 this autumn, I don't think there will be any contest. My wife will use nothing else but FF and I also fall back on it almost daily. :)
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Postby WstrnElect » Tue 24 Aug, 2004 12:56 am

James wrote:To my way of thinking, if one is going to choose between NS 7.2 and Mozilla, I'd give the nod to Netscape. Now... Firefox is a different kettle of fish. When it hits 1.0 this autumn, I don't think there will be any contest. My wife will use nothing else but FF and I also fall back on it almost daily. :)


PERHAPS AOL will keep pace and release a version of Netscape on the same platform as Firefox. Perhaps.

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Postby MJR » Tue 24 Aug, 2004 10:33 am

I feel that no effort was made when putting Netscape Brand on Mozilla 1.7.


Are you kidding? This is the finest rendition of Mozilla 1.7 to date. When 1.7 came out, it had security vulnerabilities. Mozilla had to upgrade itself. Firefox had to upgrade itself too. This is the Mozilla code in its finest form.

The Netscape toolbar, which was made for IE was thrown in just so that the "Netscape" name is there along with the Logo


IMHO, Netscape toolbar added value to Internet Explorer. It enhanced an ageing browser which can't even "defend" itself from pesky pop-ups. Yes, there are pop-up blockers around but Netscape was the browser which can block pop-ups by default. Of course, this pop-up blocking feature was adopted from the Mozilla code but the emergence of the Netscape toolbar has a significance that not a lot of people realize. Haven't you wondered why there is no Mozilla toolbar for IE up to now? There's a Google, Yahoo! and Netscape toolbar for IE but no Mozilla toolbar.

PERHAPS AOL will keep pace and release a version of Netscape on the same platform as Firefox. Perhaps.


By releasing Netscape 7.2, AOL has finally done justice to Netscape and to the web. The internet is a wasteland and will remain so if you don't have the right tools to transform it into a goldmine. People don't just browse websites, they also make webpages, send email, chat, send instant messages, listen to internet radio, post at newsgroups securely and the internet suite we know as Netscape makes all of these possible for FREE. Microsoft has grasped this fact and has come out with its own set of internet tools (IE, MSN, MSN Messenger, Frontpage, Media Player, etc.,) and together with its infamous business strategy, is making tremendous profit out of it. But the Microsoft experience will never empower the end user. I really think that an internet suite is the only way to break Microsoft's back. The Mozilla Foundation is in the right path. It all begins with taking back the web. Then you're ready for the next level. 8-)
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Postby Fulvio » Tue 24 Aug, 2004 11:12 am

MJR,
I agree with you on everything except that the Suite is the way to go.
I have been saying over and over, that, if there would be a decent extention in Firefox, as the one which died in 0.8, and allowed painless and seamless links to Thunderbird, or other mail clients. I have yet to find anything suitable. And, the Mail button in Firefox will point to only one place, the default mail application. It is too rigid.
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Postby James » Tue 24 Aug, 2004 11:16 am

I really think that an internet suite is the only way to break Microsoft's back
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With the exception of the above quote, I agree with the remainder of your post. I'm learning, once again, to love Netscape. I recognize, however, that Microsoft's back is not going to be broken anytime soon, particularly by a browser suite. Windows and Office are dominant and will likely remain so fro some time to come. It's simply too costly for businesses to retool, as it were, and adopt alternatives. These are the big money-makers for MS and in truth what drives the company. I might add that X-box is rapidly gaining on the competition as well.

BUT... I've never taken to IE nor OE and have always sought alternatives.... even though I'm completely committed to Windows.
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Postby DiscoFever » Tue 24 Aug, 2004 2:18 pm

I agree with Fulvio with regards to Firefox/Thunderbird issue. Why can't Firefox have Thunderbird as a "built in" . That's what i like about Mozilla (1.7)/Netscape. You can go to the mail and view all your mail at once. My wife likes "Incredimail" and I dont. my son like Outlook Express . I like to go to the browser click the mail and there it is. and if i want to send a link , "My" mail client will open up to send it. Not "Incredimail" or "Outlook Express". Hope you understand what I'm trying to say. :wink:
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Postby Danny_G » Thu 26 Aug, 2004 5:46 am

NS 7.2 in Linux is faster than 7.1
I like see my ICQ buddies in sidebar :)
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Postby Fulvio » Thu 26 Aug, 2004 11:05 am

DiscoFever wrote:I agree with Fulvio with regards to Firefox/Thunderbird issue. Why can't Firefox have Thunderbird as a "built in" . That's what i like about Mozilla (1.7)/Netscape. You can go to the mail and view all your mail at once. My wife likes "Incredimail" and I dont. my son like Outlook Express . I like to go to the browser click the mail and there it is. and if i want to send a link , "My" mail client will open up to send it. Not "Incredimail" or "Outlook Express". Hope you understand what I'm trying to say. :wink:


Hi! If Firefox would have TB, it would a Mozilla suite, and some people want to split the browser from the mail client, like IE is split from OE.
There was a nice extention which allowed a single click opening of TB and/or any other mail client. Just like clicking on the NS/Moz envelope. Then when the bird mutated to a mammal(Firebird-->Firefox), the extention could not be used. I am using K-meleon which can set up a Mail Client as external application. I am looking for this, once again, in Firefox.
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