SillyDog701

[TexARC]

After upgrading my NS 7.1 to 7.2 (went without errors) I have found that NS stops loading pages after it sits idle for a short time - anywhere from 5 mintues to 15.
DUring these stalls when it shows "loading...." I can load WS FTP Pro or MS IE and they both access the net just fine.

I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling. Killed off Zone Alarm Pro, various systray items (Clipmate, QuickTime, NAV). I just rolled back to version 7.1 and it has not happened again since.

I've done some searches here and on the Unofficial Netscape sites with no success.

Has anyone run into this also?

thanks very much

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)

[Fulvio]

Since you can't "roll back", you must have been one of the manay who did at least one of these, or both: 1. Installed 7.2 on top of 7.1
2. Used the same profile of 7.1 for 7.2.
The symptoms you described are more like 7.1's, but greatly maximized.
I kept both by installing 7.2 in a different folder, and also created a new profile. I have had no problem using one or the other on Cable.
There have been all sorts of problems with improper installation of 7.2.
Unfortotunately, most people do not describe the problem in the Header.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax)

[TexARC]

By rolling back, I mean that I completely uninstalled and then rebooted, before going back to a copy of 7.1 I found on SillyDog - sorry for being vague.

thanks.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax)

[Fulvio]

By rolling back, I mean that I completely uninstalled and then rebooted, before going back to a copy of 7.1 I found on SillyDog - sorry for being vague.

thanks.

Tex,
this was a minor point. The most important has to do with the proper installation. Did you uninstall 7.1, before install 7.2?
If you did, and also checked the Program File|Common Files|mozilla.org|GRE and there is nothing in it. I don't have an answer.
It should be possible to proceed with old profile, if it worked in 7.1.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax)

[TexARC]

I did NOT run an un-install of 7.1 prior to running the 7.2 install - my very bad.
I just had 7.1 do the same kind of timeout I have been experiencing from 7.2 so my problem remains.

To the best of my knowledge I had made no other change to my system between being happy on 7.1, running the 7.2 install, and then the same day finding the problem. IOW, no other installs.

I have to wonder about all the other "stuff" that got installed along with the basic Netscape software - the weather station crap in particular was particularly obnoxious in that the systray icon offered no way to shut it down, and it was obviously hitting the net very often. I noticed that it stayed after the uninstall of 7.2, so I uninstalled it. I wonder if some piece of the install other than the Netscape itself is crossways.

I've got a netscape profile that is 1.1 gigs in size - I have been on NS for quite a few years, and I retained it during the install and uninstall process I alluded to earlier. I guess I could install the 7.2 completely separate, and see if it hangs on loading of tabs and pages. Incidentally, when it exhibits this hung nature I cannot use Messenger either. But I can use any other software to access the web so I know the actual pipe is still there and unimpeded. This kinda thang really bugs me...

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax)

[Fulvio]

Ron,
the fact that you had some problems with 7.1, may mean that you had a previous Netscape6 or 7 which installed the same way. Except that things are progressively worse. Unfortunately, the fact it was ok to install "on top" with 4.x is not forgotten, and Netscape and Mozilla from which NS is derived will let you carry on, and continue getting into trouble. This bugs me, but I know the ropes, but I was caught once not thinking, and I was burned.
As for the extras, as you found out they are not part of Netscape, but they seem to be. There are custom installs for that. It is supposed to be for the user's convenience, but, obviously they are not.
As for the profile, being so big, it seems that you may have saved all your mail for years, and possibly have huge a huge bookmarks.html file.
I decided to check my profile, and it weighs in at 22.3 Mb. My bookmarks file is 47 Kb. I assure you that dragging as much stuff as you do is not helpful.
You can also check, with Netscape closed , you profile, and delete the xul.mfl file, if larger than 3Mb.
And, of course, you can use other software, but, in all fairness, is it treated the same way as Netscape?

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8a4) Gecko/20040927

[TexARC]

While 7.1 had always behaved just fine prior to the 7.2 install that doesn't mean it was perfect. And I simply have 5 years or more of sent messages. I tell myself if I ever go a month without having to refer back then I can delete. That day hasn't come yet.

My address book is not that large, btw...

I'm surprised that you are saying that 1, installing 7.2 over 7.1 is not a good idea, since when programmers know there is a potential problem, they can program the install routine to first uninstall the previous version. Now, maybe that isn't desirable as an automated process, but it sure would be a good idea to alert, at least.

I have not had 7.1 die on me since that one time many hours ago, so it is much better than 7.2 but not yet the same comfort zone as 7.1 was before I put 7.2 on my Thinkpad.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax)

[Fulvio]

Sorry, I misread your previous post. I had things backward.
Going to the installation. I cannot understand how the programmers would create a program which has acted up, if a new version is installed. I believe I saw something on a website, but, I can't think of having seen any definite warning. In fact, I hope that someone will come up and point it out to us.
But, still, it is a good idea to organize and pare down one's mail. It is risky to keep so much on a hard drive.
I assure you that it is tough initially, but it feels good when you are done.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) (CK-SillyDog)

[Ramona]

Fulvio,

The 7.2 install does have one warning, when, or if it finds another instance of Netscape in the default location. Once the setup type is selected, the next window is the warning: Custom Install of Netscape 7.2. Perhaps this is what you're remembering.

Ramona

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041026 Firefox/1.0RC1