SillyDog701

[richard mitnick]

I really need some help, with the one and only application that I have for tabbed browsing. I installed Netscape 8.0.1, and imported my I.E favorites ( for some reason, on two computers, imports from FireFox just would not work).

I have one important group of two tabs which will not open properly, on either machine, no matter what I do. I have tried using the import from I.E.; I have tried just opening them individually from where they exist ascurrent bookmarks and then saving the group; I have tried going out on the web to the two sites and saving them as a group. Nothing works, on either machine; all of my other groups, about a dozen, open fine. This group opens in Firefox at the snap of the click.

Other than that, Netscape 8.0.1 is the cat's pajamas.

Here, I just checked and even Sillydog, on my first launch, "knows" who I am.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050519 Netscape/8.0.1

[Fulvio]

Just wait, and you will see that the cat has lost the PJs. I had NS8 beta, and imported its settings, so I has the IE folder in the Personal Toolbar.
I use a lot of folders, and none of them were detectable in the tabs. But, all the single websites worked nicely. I am listening now to MSN music, using Real Player, of course (that made my day!).My FF1.0.4 does not have IE Favs. Which goes to show you....
But another profile for a nightly did have the IE Favs. Again all the single sites showed nicely, but one of the folder read as if it was a .gif file. When I went to close that tab, my FF crashed.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511

[richard mitnick]

Hey Fulvio, I remember you.

I had the beta, same problem. I did not install over the beta or keep the profile. I started from scratch. And, I really like Netscape 8, passcards, individual site security on the fly.

It is just this one thing, this group of two tabs which will not open as a group.

BTW, on both computers, I tried to import from Firefox 1.0.4, and both machines just froze. What's up with that???

You know, Firefox and Mozilla are not perfect either. Firefox lacks the Forms Manager of Mozilla, and in Mozilla, you need to manually save any group for tabbed browsing, as opposed to Firefox, Netscape, and Opera, which install them as tabs. So, with this one little problem, and with the assets of passcards and site security, I will stick with Netscape, probably make it my default.

I would just love to solve this.

BTW, the Feedback available in the beta seems to be gone in the 8.0.X releases.

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)

[captjlddavis]

richard,

EXACTLY what is happening when you try to open the 2 tab group in NS 8.0.1

Bookmarks in NS 8.0.1 - though confusing to me to say the least - work as they are supposed to.

I load the group ( 2 tabs ) - Bookmarks this group - assign name and location to save to - and it shows up - select "open in tabs" and it opens."

what happens on your end.....

regards:captjlddavis

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910

[Ramona]

Richard,

Same problem here, until I selected the Tab Group as my Home Page.
In Tools | Options | General | Home Page
Select: Use Bookmark
Then point to your Tab Group Folder

Hope this works for you.

Ramona

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050519 Netscape/8.0.1

[richard mitnick]

Ramona-

Thanks for your help and your hint.

I can find various work arounds, you know, I mean it's not really a big deal to click on two bookmarks; or I could keep Firefox open and minimized, just for this one task.

But, you know, it should just work. You know that expression, "it just works", the dream statement of all computer users.

I just want to solve it, get it to work properly like all of my other folders of bookmarks.

The conundrum is that the same problem, identically occurs on two computers.

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)

[captjlddavis]

richard.

Are we talking about FF 1.0.4 OR NS 8.0.1 -and you never said EXACTLY what you problem was ?

Other than it does not work as you expected.
1. Can you save the 2 tabs as a group ?
2. When you right click the group what happens ?
3. Can you select "open in tabs"
3. What are the two sites?

What OS etc....




regards:captjlddavis

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910

[Fulvio]

He was talking about 8.01, and comparing it with FF1.0.4. At this point, I am not sure what is going on. Can you guys have a folder as Tab? The issue was to have the IE Favs as tabs, and it works for individual websites, for me.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050302 Firefox/0.9.6

[captjlddavis]

Thanks Fulvio, I thought we were talking about NS but he mentioned FF - Sooooo

I don't know what he is getting OR what he wants.

I have several GROUPS bookmarked as I am sure you do. No problems opening the GROUP in tabs but you have to select the GROUP - "open in tabs"

Opening a GROUP with one click ?????
Mozilla yes - FF/NS I don't think

Mozilla used a multi-flag type icon for folders ( groups) and FF /NS use a folder type icon.....

If he posts back with alittle more detail maybe we can figure out what to do....


regards:captjlddavis

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910

[Fulvio]

I don't know if we are thinking about the same thing. I just reinstalled NS8.01, starting from scratch with an obscure profile, and what I am doing is to select an existing folder in my personal toolbar, and, darn it, every single URL showed up as a tab. The same thing happened with IE Favs, except that "nested folders" did not open or were available.
After checking up several things, I realize why people get confused at the e-mail. I swear that it started with Set E-mail, which changed to Webmail after I put in some nonsense. I would expect that one could set up the POP account as webmail, but why would I bother with it if I have a tab for my mail ( between my wife and I, we have five active accounts)
Now that it showed its true face, I can set up my real webmail accounts.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050519 Netscape/8.0.1

[richard mitnick]

captjlddavis-

It sounds like maybe I was not clear, so, as clear as I can:

I installed Netscape 8.0.1 on two computers. I had previously used the beta, and I had the problem I outline below on both computers.

I completely blew away the beta and installed 8.0.1 fresh on both computers.

I tried to import everything on both machines from Firefox 1.0.4. Both just froze. I hit Control-Alt-Delete and got the message that the software was not responding. So, I imported everyting from the latest build of I.E. 6 in WinXP SP2.

I have about a dozen folders of groups of Favorites, along with numerous individual Favorites. The folders of groups all installed with the same tab structure that I see in Firefox 1.0.4 and which works perfectly in 1.0.4.

All of my groups open properly except this one group. It never opened properly in tabs in the Netcape beta on either machine. It will not open properly in tabs on either machine in Netscape 8.0.1.

I tried re-saving the group, first blowing away the existing group and opening the indivual tabs which are in other groups (Google, from my search group folder; ThomasRegister from my company group folder), and saving them as a group. No change.

So, I tried what I hd found I needed to do in Mozilla to save a group, which is to use the address bar to access the sites and then save the two sites in a group.

I always get that bottom tab on this group which says Open in Tabs. But it never works, and it also does not open the same way each time on either computer.Sometimes I will get ThomasRegister and a blank tab; sometimes I get just two blank tabs. Once, and only once, I got Googla nad a blank tab.

If I click on the Open in Tabs tab a second time, both of my sites open. I wind up with too may tabs, mostly blank, but sometimes more than one Google or more than one Thomas Register.

I know that this is not the biggest problem around, and I am having absolutely no other problems. It just that I know that it should work and I want it to work the way it should.


I hope that I have clarified the situation.

I really appreciate the attention your are all giving to me on this issue.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050519 Netscape/8.0.1

[Fulvio]

I have been working with 8 beta since it had been made available, and I found out that there were problems importing settings from Firefox. But, I don't remember exactly what was wrong. so, I had imported my settings from Mozilla, and, I was ok. I imported my settings from 8.0 final (installed in a separate folder) from 8 beta. In fact, I have kept 8 beta. I had some problems with 8 final, and uninstalled it , and removed the profile. Then, reinstalled 8 final, importing settings from NS7.2.
Of course, Tabs are almost untamable, although I have been working with this critter for six months.
I would have to see your program to fully understand your problems. Unfortunately, your problem will happen again and again, and this sub-beta program will be abandoned. It seems to be NS6.0 revisited, except that 8, really, works.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511

[captjlddavis]

richards,

thanks very much. Like Fulvio, I would have to be at your machine to really see what is going on.
Importing, though a nice idea, has a couple of problems ?

Try the following:

1. Confirm that you have a WORKING bookmarks setup in FF, with all tabs functioning correctly.

2. Determine the location of the profile containing the GOOD bookmarks.

2. With all instances of NS and FF closed. (including Quick Launch)

3. With a file manager ( WINDOWS EXPLORER ? )
Go to your NS8 Profile and DELETE any file named Bookmarks.html or variations thereof.

4. COPY bookmarks.html from the good FF profile to the NS8 profile.

5. Start NS8. and see if bookmarks work correctly.

Please post back and let us know the results.

regards:captjlddavis

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910

[richard mitnick]

Thanks all for all of the help. There is a lot here for me to digest, so I will be some time with it.

I really like Netscape 8.0.1, and I only have this one group of tabs that I need to use this way, so I am sticking with Netscape and will work around the problem until I get it sorted out.

I will be back as soon as I can. I am sure that I am not the only person to have this problem, especially as it is identical on both machines.

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)

[Fulvio]

I will be back as soon as I can. I am sure that I am not the only person to have this problem, especially as it is identical on both machines.

If you would tell me that your problem is identical on two machines set up and used by two different people, I would tend to agree that it is program related, but if you set up both macines, or at least the program, I am having some problems. I tried to reproduce what you describe without success, and did you try to do what the Capt suggested? In fact, you do not even need to delete the bookmarks.html file from NS8, since the format in Firefox and NS8 is the same, and the file would be overwritten.
Otherwise, if you prefer to get someone else reporting your problem, you will have to wait.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Firefox/1.0.4