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[Wai_Wai]

A strange bug on location bar - no URL matching option

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Hi.
This happens when I close and restart Mozilla.
When I click on the "little triangle", a drop-down list appeared with some previously visited websites on it.
But when I type the first few words of a previously visited URL (and the URL is still in the drop-down list), it will not sort this URL out.

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Illustration:
Drop-down menu:
- mail.yahoo.com
- www.hotmail.com
- and so on

As normal, when I type "mail", an option of "mail.yahoo.com" will apear just below the location bar.

But after I close and restart Mozilla, nothing is shown when I type "mail..." I have to type "mail.yahoo.com" again. And after that, the option will be shown when I type "mail".

Is it a bug?
Does anyone encounter the same problem?

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My Mozilla Preferences:
edit | preferences | smart browsing | advanced
- I ticked for 2nd and 3rd options only

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Wins XP (SP1), Mozilla 1.7.3
My add-ons:
- Nuke Anything 0.1, IE View 0.84, SessionSaver 0.2d, MAF, Copy Plain Text, Googlebar, BugMeNot 0.6.1, DownloadWith 0.0.7, Mouse Gestures 1.0

It is confirmed my add-ons are probably not the source of troubles. It is because even if I disable all of them, the problem still exists.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 MultiZilla/1.6.4.0b

[Antony]

But after I close and restart Mozilla, nothing is shown when I type "mail..." I have to type "mail.yahoo.com" again. And after that, the option will be shown when I type "mail".

Simply the visited URL is not recorded in your profile.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/125.5.5 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/125.12

[Wai_Wai]

I updated my post.

The updated part is:

It is confirmed my add-ons are probably not the source of troubles. It is because even if I disable all of them, the problem still exists.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 MultiZilla/1.6.4.0b

[Wai_Wai]

But after I close and restart Mozilla, nothing is shown when I type "mail..." I have to type "mail.yahoo.com" again. And after that, the option will be shown when I type "mail".

Simply the visited URL is not recorded in your profile.

How come it is not recorded?!?

The URL is clearly seen in the drop-down menu, so it implies it is recorded in my profile, isn't it?

To me, it seems the auto-complete function doesn't function well.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 MultiZilla/1.6.4.0b

[Antony]

I updated my post.

I would suggest you next time post the new or additional information in reply. It's hard for people spot the updated bit.

How come it is not recorded?!?

The URL is clearly seen in the drop-down menu, so it implies it is recorded in my profile, isn't it?

To me, it seems the auto-complete function doesn't function well.

The best way is to test with a new profile check how you have configured your HDD and profile.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/125.5.5 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/125.12

[Wai_Wai]

As to IE, it doesn't have such kinds of problems.

So now I suspect there's a bug in Mozilla that it will clear the auto-complete part of history when it exits. So next time when I open Mozilla, the auto-complete cannot function.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 MultiZilla/1.6.4.0b

[Wai_Wai]

I updated my post.

I would suggest you next time post the new or additional information in reply. It's hard for people spot the updated bit.

You overlooked my post, man.
I've done it before you told me. (Anyway, thanks for your good suggestions )

(PS: I decided to emphasise the updated bits in my notification post by making them bold. Hopefully this won't make readers missing my bits easily.)

It is in the same post. Just the next paragragh after "I updated my post."

To your reference, here's my updated bits:

It is confirmed my add-ons are probably not the source of troubles. It is because even if I disable all of them, the problem still exists.

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The best way is to test with a new profile check how you have configured your HDD and profile.

I'm testing on another machine. A fresh installation and a trial afterward. The same problem occurs.
Please make the same test at your side (if you can), to confirm my result.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 MultiZilla/1.6.4.0b

[Fulvio]

Whatever you do, you have to take note that the location bar which you discuss has only URLs, or at least items which could have a http:// in front, so if I type mozilla, I will get http://www.mozilla.org although only mozilla is stored. If I type mail, I get mail.com. If you already have a working entry, you should not make your browser guess, guess click on the item, like mail.yahoo.com, and forget about typing.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax)

[captjlddavis]

As to IE, it doesn't have such kinds of problems.

So now I suspect there's a bug in Mozilla that it will clear the auto-complete part of history when it exits. So next time when I open Mozilla, the auto-complete cannot function.

I haven't seen any "BUG" that fits this anomoly.

As I mentioned in the other post:

other post

What shows as you type depends on BOTH the history.dat and the localstore.rdf file and if you have autocomplete enabled or not.

Clearing history does not effect the drop down entries that you manually entered and vice versa.

Also whether you have "keyword" enabled and how you have the search functions configured. Is domain guessing sellected ? There are several options, each one of which can effect what you see/get.

It is not a one shot fixes all.

Not knowing what ALL your various settings are makes it very difficult to come up with a "short" fix.

Moz. pretty well does what it is designed to do.

I do not understand fully what you expect/want to happen when you enter something in the urlbbar.

regards:captjlddavis

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910

[Wai_Wai]

It is difficult to say without uploading a screenshot.
Unfortunately there's no such function in this forum.

I don't know what this feature is called.
But it is somewhat related to "Edit | Preferences | Navigator | Smart Browsing | location bar autocomplete"

If you have previously visited some URL, when you typed their URL names again, you don't need to type all of them because the browser will sort out the most-fit one for you.

I intend to type this URL: mail.yahoo.com
But I donn't need to type all words out if I have previously visited this website. Maybe I just need to type the first 4 words, and there'll be an available ption shown under the location bar .

In "Edit | Preferences | Navigator | Smart Browsing | location bar autocomplete | Advanced | Preview", you can see a picture. In the picture, when one type "mo", a lot of options will be shown (eg www.mozilla.org and so on)

So the problem is (let take the "mo" case and the pciture for illustration purpose)
When I haven't closed my Mozilla and type "mo", a lot of options will be shown.
When I have closed my Mozilla, reopen it and then type "mo", no such optinos are made. I have to type the complete URL first (ie www.mozilla.org). Only after that when I type "mo", the option of www.mozilla.org will re-appear. But it will be gone again when I closed my Mozilla.

I have prepared some of the screenshots. If you wish to take a look at them, please leave your email address. Thanks.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 MultiZilla/1.6.4.0b

[akbash]

URLbar autocomplete works only until you quit Mozilla, and then it is reset.

This can happen if you have set Mozilla to remember history for 0 days. Edit Menu -> Preferences -> Navigator -> History panel.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8a6) Gecko/20041203 Firefox/1.0+

[beanboy89]

Wai_Wai,

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UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0

[captjlddavis]

Ok - I am starting to get some idea of what you are talking about.

As I said before,- I think auto complete is tied into Both your history.dat file and urlbar history ( localstore.rdf). If history is set to 0 days, obviously, it will not autocomplete from the history file.as there is none. Again auto complete from "sites" that you enter in the urlbar refers to actual sites that you entered - it gets pretty confusing as all of the preferences seem be tied to/and dependent on each other. (eg. if you have "keywords" enabled then "domain" guessing does not seem to function as you would expect. But if you think about it, it is logical - Do you want to "search" based on keyword ]b]OR[/b] do you want to add "www. etc and then search for that site.

It is so confusing to me, that I do not use some of the so called "features" . I could be ,and probalby am, wrong in some of my assumptions, but this is just a discussion board.

I think if you play with the "advanced" features, in conjunction with the various search features that you may come to a compromise in what you want and what you can get.

Mozilla pretty well does what it is designed to do-may not be exactly what you want - but it does pretty darn good IMO.
Don't know what else I can say.

regards:captjlddavis

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910

[Wai_Wai]

Expected result:
The following should happen (notice the red circle!) when I type "www.y":
[img=http://img74.exs.cx/img74/3551/5c-screenshotauto-so.th.gif]

Actual result:
But after I close and reopen Mozilla, the following happen when I type "www.y":
[img=http://img3.exs.cx/img3/4766/1e-screenshotnoauto-.th.gif]


I am not using something like domain guessing etc.
PS: mail.yahoo.com is itself an accessible website - no "www." is needed to be added.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 MultiZilla/1.6.4.0b

[captjlddavis]

Been dinkin' with this thing for awhile (now a challenge.....)

Looks to me like you can not do what you want ie.

Have history set to 0 or clear history and have autocomplete work the way you want it to work.....

sorry I can not be more help.

maybe someone else can come up with something.

Looks to me like Mozilla adds to " mail.yahoo.com " to make it read:
http://mail.yahoo.com/

regards:captjlddavis.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910