SillyDog701

by **Wellander** » Thu 15 Jan, 2004 2:23 am

Hi,
I want to know if there are any good shell replacmants for windows.
I knoew that we have the exploere.exe shell and then we have progman.exe shell but I want to download some to see others.
Windows is getting very boring.

EDIT by DJGM:
I've moved this to the Mac OS & Linux forum due to the Linux related discussions that take place further down.

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98)

by **DJGM** » Thu 15 Jan, 2004 3:12 am

Two Windows shell replacements programs I'm aware of are LiteStep, and Talisman. If you'd like to just change the
entire user interface of Windows, without replacing the explorer.exe shell, there's WindowsBlinds. Give that a go!

If Windows is getting boring for you, why stop at just replacing the shell? Migrate to Linux instead, or buy a Mac!
I know you have RedHat Linux 8.0 installedon at least one of your computers, but that's quite an old distro now.

SUSE Linux 9.0 was released about 3 months ago, so too was what would have been RedHat 10, that being
the distro known as Fedora Core. Since RedHat have ditched their consumer and retail distros, in favour of
this new community driven Fedora Core Linux roject, and FC v1 was officially released not too long ago.

Lindows.com have also released version 4.5 of their sugar coated "Windows like" Linux distro, LindowsOS.
Also, Sun Microsystems have recently released their own Linux distro called Sun Java Desktop System.

Oh, and there's also Mandrake Linux 9.2, but this distro has been known to kill certain CD-ROM drives!

The obligatory links . . .

LiteStep

Talisman

SUSE Linux

Fedora Core 1

LindowsOS 4.5

Sun Java Desktop System

Mandrake Linux (May break your CD drive!)

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031217 Debian/1.5-2.0.0.lindows0.0.45.45+0

by **Wellander** » Thu 15 Jan, 2004 3:20 am

Hi,
How about redhat linux enterprise edtion v3?

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98)

by **DJGM** » Thu 15 Jan, 2004 3:34 am

Wellander wrote:Hi,
How about redhat linux enterprise edtion v3?

That for companies, and I believe is quite expensive compared with most regular Linux distros.

From - http://www.redhat.com/software/rhel/ . . .

Red Hat Enterprise Linux is the premier operating system for
open source computing. It's sold by annual subscription, runs
on seven system architectures, is certified by top enterprise
software and hardware vendors, and backed by a RHN
subscription and up to 24x7 support . . .

=====================

Red Hat Enterprise Linux creates a reliable, secure, high
performance platform designed for today's commercial
environments--with capabilities that match or surpass
those of proprietary operating systems.

Basically, it's a corporate OS, aimed at corporate sized wallets!

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031217 Debian/1.5-2.0.0.lindows0.0.45.45+0

by **Wellander** » Thu 15 Jan, 2004 3:39 am

Hi,
How about windows 2000 and nt 3.x and 4.0 those where for companies not home use.
I use them.

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98)

by **Phoenix21692** » Thu 15 Jan, 2004 6:25 am

DJGM wrote:Oh, and there's also Mandrake Linux 9.2, but this distro has been known to kill certain CD-ROM drives!...

Mandrake Linux (May break your CD drive!)

Break the CD-ROM drive? How does that happen?

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030425

by **DJGM** » Thu 15 Jan, 2004 7:15 am

Elves21692 wrote:
DJGM wrote:Oh, and there's also Mandrake Linux 9.2, but this distro
has been known to kill certain CD-ROM drives!...

Mandrake Linux (May break your CD drive!)

Break the CD-ROM drive? How does that happen?

Go here, and scroll down to the October 24th 2003 bulletin . . .

October 24th, 2003 - Important notice! - Several users have reported a big issue
with LG Cd-rom drives used with Mandrake Linux 9.2: these CD-rom drives are
not compliant with ATAPI specification and therefore can be damaged . . .

It's more an issue of CD drives (made by LG) that have a flaw, and MDK9.2 CD can kill these particular drives.

It's happened to me. I got a free covermounted copy of MDK9.2 from a recent issue of Linux Format magazine.
I put the first disc in my "testbed" PC (a Compaq Deskpro EN system) and rebooted. Only a few minutes into
the setup wizard, it threw up an error, and said the install could not continue. When I rebooted the PC, I soon
found that the CD-ROM had been completely killed stone dead! It didn't show up on Windows Explorer, nor
did it appear in the Device Manager. It wouldn't open up or eject. It was technically and physically dead!

So, I'm not going near Mandrake Linux again anytime soon, or at least until version 9.3 or 10 is released!

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031217 Debian/1.5-2.0.0.lindows0.0.45.45+0

by **DJGM** » Thu 15 Jan, 2004 7:17 am

EDIT @ 21:33 GMT

I've moved this from WIndows forum to the Mac OS and Linux forum.

I was unable to do this earlier today, as I had to go out on an errand at very short
notice, so I took the decision to temporarily lock the thread. I'm back now, so the
thread is reopened, and the above discussion can continue unabaited . . .

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031217 Debian/1.5-2.0.0.lindows0.0.45.45+0

by **Wellander** » Thu 15 Jan, 2004 5:37 pm

Hi,
I tried the shell replacments for windows did not like them so OI uninstalled them and it deleted the file explorer.exe.
I had to use the command prompt olly mode from the windows 98 startup menu and do
edit c:\windows\system.ini
and set the shell to progman.exe
Whay did this happen?
I have to use the file manager now too.
(c:\windows\winfile.exe)
I got me a problem here.

UserAgent: Enter new UA String or choose a common one. Then press ENTER

by **Wellander** » Thu 15 Jan, 2004 6:19 pm

Hi,
Please excuese the us string.
I was doing some testing at a radio site and forgot to change it back.
Sorry.

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98)

by **DJGM** » Thu 15 Jan, 2004 6:46 pm

Wellander wrote:Hi,
I tried the shell replacments for windows did not like them so OI uninstalled them and it deleted the file explorer.exe.
I had to use the command prompt olly mode from the windows 98 startup menu and do
edit c:\windows\system.ini
and set the shell to progman.exe
Whay did this happen?
I have to use the file manager now too.
(c:\windows\winfile.exe)
I got me a problem here.

The problem you have is because you deleted explorer.exe. Never, EVER delete
that file. You will now have to re-install Windows because of such a stupid action.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 Firebird/0.7

by **Wellander** » Thu 15 Jan, 2004 6:49 pm

Hi,
I did not delete it.
One of the enchacments did it.

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98)

by **Wellander** » Thu 15 Jan, 2004 10:42 pm

Hi,
I extracted it (explorer.exe) off the setup cd and it is fixed now.
Again I did not delete that file.

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98)

SillyDog701

Any good shell replacements? Plus some Linux chat.

Any good shell replacements? Plus some Linux chat.

Who is online