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[sisyphus88]

I am enjoying testing SillyDog's Streamline version of NS 7.0. As I read the posts, a question arose... Is there a significant difference between SillyDog Streamline, K-Meleon, Phoenix, or any other "independent" browser/mail program based on Mozilla? My OS are W2000 & W98se.

I am particularly interested in privacy and security.

In addition, how can I hide my browser and OS info from websites in v. 7? Is one of the above browers better at security and privacy than another? Is there a consensus on which is the "best" browser?

Many thanks,
Sisyphus

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 (CK-SillyDog)

[Fulvio]

I am enjoying testing SillyDog's Streamline version of NS 7.0. As I read the posts, a question arose... Is there a significant difference between SillyDog Streamline, K-Meleon, Phoenix, or any other "independent" browser/mail program based on Mozilla? My OS are W2000 & W98se.

I am particularly interested in privacy and security.

In addition, how can I hide my browser and OS info from websites in v. 7? Is one of the above browers better at security and privacy than another? Is there a consensus on which is the "best" browser?

Many thanks,
Sisyphus

The reply is easy. SillyDog Streamline is Netscape7 without some add on programs, which the user probably has, and so can get the plugin .dll files.
And, it is based on Mozilla1.01. K-meleon 0.7 is based mostly on Mozilla1.2b, so is the more up to date. I, personally, hate it because it messed up my NS7.0 personal toolbar, while taking the Netscape bookmarks. Other than that, although some people are absolutely going bananas over it, I am not. It has one very desirable feature, only 5MB download. Netscape has mail as part of the program. K-meleon does not have any mail. You are on your own there. Phoenix is almost in its infancy, and the aim is develop a second or third generation browser, which has a separate mail client, and the group is working on it. So far, it has proven to be quite stable, more so than K-meleon. There are other browsers similar to Streamline, notably DJGM's. The latter is pretty large. There is also the SillyDog Standalone, which has no mail, and DJGM has a similar one. I am quite partial to Beonex, which is in every way like the other Netscapes, but less than 10MB with Mail.
Privacy and security are part of Netscape, and any Mozilla-based programs. Beonex, developed in Germany is vey dedicated to security.
I enable all cookies, but set them to expire at the end of the session.
Where NS7 falls short short, the Prefbar, available from http://www.xulplanet.com/ takes over. You can, temporarily disable Images, Cookies and JavaScript . I found that disabling Popups works well.
You can try to see if you can get away without cookies with the Prefbar, but stealth mode and the Internet don't mix.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.2b) Gecko/20021108

[Hendikins]

I'd also give Beonex the thumbs up. I'd probably use it myself if I didn't follow the trunk...

If you don't use mail, than Phoenix is probably a better bet.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:1.2b) Gecko/20021107

[orizng]

I am enjoying testing SillyDog's Streamline version of NS 7.0. As I read the posts, a question arose... Is there a significant difference between SillyDog Streamline, K-Meleon, Phoenix, or any other "independent" browser/mail program based on Mozilla? My OS are W2000 & W98se.

I am particularly interested in privacy and security.

In addition, how can I hide my browser and OS info from websites in v. 7? Is one of the above browers better at security and privacy than another? Is there a consensus on which is the "best" browser?

Many thanks,
Sisyphus

Netscape 7 SD is from Netscape 7 ,it is based on mozilla 1.0.1
Latese Phoenix nightly build is based on mozilla 1.3a
K-meleon is based on mozilla 1.2b

number of version can explain:
mozilla 1.0.x is a stable branch which will keep on going with 1.0.2,1.0.3, it is a quite conservative one, but you don't need to worry about things like crash etc.
Phoenixis most modern, many many features is included, such as type ahead, image block,and etc
K-meleon maybe between them.

if you need a stable browser to handle your internet affairs, I will recommend NS.
if you want a more colorful, and exciting one,maybe phoenix is your best choice. but you may have to check ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/phoenix/nightly often because phoenix is changing all the time //grin.

I am using NS 7, and I also have phoenix on my computer.

to talk about security, I find no much difference among them, maybe NS will lose if you think cannot block image is a great flaw.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; zh-CN; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0

[Antony]

All of those browsers (Streamline version of Netscape, DJGM-i's Distro, K-Meleon, Phoenix) are all from Mozilla's open source code.

However, Streamline version of Netscape, DJGM-i's Distro are based on Netscape 7.0, which has been carefully documented, tested, and of course marketed. And this would be the version I recommend.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 (CK-SillyDog)

[Mandrake]

Fulvio: I disagree with K-meleon, I have found it very fast and stable!

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.0; Windows NT)

[Hendikins]

Fulvio: I disagree with K-meleon, I have found it very fast and stable!

I find the trunk to be fast and stable also, aside from when we get crash landings, of course (and we can all figure out why they call them that, can't we?) :)

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3a) Gecko/20021111

[sisyphus88]

Many thanks to all for your input.
Sisyphus

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 5.0; T312461)

[Fulvio]

Fulvio: I disagree with K-meleon, I have found it very fast and stable!

I never implied that K-meleon is not fast nor stable. I have had some bad experience with K-meleon, but I just reinstalled it, and it is what it is has been before. Still no bookmark nor favorites management, and Opera hotlist which should be there is not visible. It is ok, but , in a few months Phoenix will have surpassed it. It took one year to go from 0.6 to 0.7, and many annoying problems are still there. But, it is fast and stable, for me.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 (CK-DJGM-i.net)

[Josh]

K-meleon 0.7 is based mostly on Mozilla1.2b, so is the more up to date. I, personally, hate it because it messed up my NS7.0 personal toolbar, while taking the Netscape bookmarks.

Fulvio,

I don't advice sharing any any NS bookmarks file that has been used with K-Meleon with NS or Moz. Problems can result. Trust me.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.2b) Gecko/20021016 K-Meleon 0.7

[Fulvio]

K-meleon 0.7 is based mostly on Mozilla1.2b, so is the more up to date. I, personally, hate it because it messed up my NS7.0 personal toolbar, while taking the Netscape bookmarks.

Fulvio,

I don't advice sharing any any NS bookmarks file that has been used with K-Meleon with NS or Moz. Problems can result. Trust me.

I am slowly making peace with K-meleon. It is not matter of sharing the bookmarks. If it works correctly K-meleon takes the information from Netscape/Mozilla, just like Netscape/Mozilla take the IE Favorites, and builds a Bookmark Personal Toolbar. It does the same with a Favorites and Hotlist(from Opera) personal toolbar. So, you could end up with three personal toolbars. In addition, you have the contents of the toolbars, accessible from individual buttons. But, strange things have been known to happen, and only to a few people. So, I copied the bookmark file from one of my Netscapes to a safe place, and I selected it as a possible victim, and all went well. The moral of the story is do not trust a program to do things correctly.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 (CK-DJGM-i.net)