SillyDog701

[Antony]

Dear all,
Just to let you know that the long history of SillyDog701's Streamline series, DJGM's Distro, Profman's Slim and others are all released under our quality assurance. We try to have those builds available in timely fashion, however we believe quality is more important. The last thing we want to do is keep asking you to download a new updates of the same Netscape version.

We open our test versions and related information to the all registered members, available in Customised Builds Testers (forum). The forum is available to all registered member for a number of reasons. However, if you wish to post/reply, please join Testers group
Please understand the nature of beta testing, in order not to confuse with novice users, we believe we made a right choice to separate such information into another subforum.

We are here asking for your inputs to help us provide best software possible. If you can help, please join our Testers group (user group).

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[Antony]

Netscape 7.1 Streamline/Stand-alone (English) and Netscape 7.1 Streamline Japanese will be available for public beta testing in Customised Builds Testers shortly.

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[DJGM]

There may be a DJGM-i Distro NS7.1 Preview available for testing on the
aforementioned customised builds forum, at some point later this week.

There's a few extra things I need to do, such as customise the artwork
in the installer, replace the splashscreen with a smaller bmp file, plus
at least one attempt to put the shiny throbber in the Modern theme!

My preliminary plans are to remove the GRE add-on, and the developers
pack from the Lite and Pigeon Editions, to try and reduce the overall size
of the downloads, as long as it doesn't cause anything to seriously break!

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[smallethic]

7.1 Streamline "coming very soon"? How soon is that? What's been happening since the last post on 30th June?

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[Mandrake]

Netscape hasn't released a version 7.1 of the CCK (the thing used to make add on distros), therefore the creation of these builds is very difficult without this utility . . .

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[smallethic]

How has Metzinger done it then? His compact version has been available for weeks.

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[DJGM]

We can only speculate how, Holger has managed to make his Compact builds
of NS7.1, when the CCK app for NS7.1 hasn't been released yet, until Holger
himself can tell us how he's managed to achieve this. I'm starting to doubt
that Netscape will even bother to release the 7.1 version of the CCK app.

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[Antony]

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On 13.07.03 22:30, wg wrote:

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> I went to the download page for the Netscape 7.1 Client Customization
> Kit but the file they had available for download was in the 7.0
> directory. Has a CCK for 7.1 been created yet?
>

Not yet, usually a few weeks after the release.

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CCK 7.1 is not yet available, and I have no intention to create Netscape 7.1 Streamline before CCK7.1.

Please see this thread for the information on what's allowed and what's not.
Basically, we are only allowed to modify or create any derivative works of Netscape 7.1, (a.k.a. customization, translation or localization), under Netscape Client Customization Kit License Agreement. In other words, such work must be done by CCK tool.

How has Metzinger done it then? His compact version has been available for weeks.

You have to ask him.

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[holger]

How has Metzinger done it then? His compact version has been available for weeks.

No magic involved. It's tweaking some of the ini files in the setup directory to get the addons in. the rest is basic zipping and unzipping. If you guys want I can write a howto.

I wonder whether there will be a CCK now that Netscape has been axed...

- holger

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[DJGM]

How has Metzinger done it then? His compact version
has been available for weeks.

No magic involved. It's tweaking some of the ini files in the
setup directory to get the addons in. the rest is basic zipping
and unzipping. If you guys want I can write a howto.

I wonder whether there will be a CCK now that Netscape has been axed...

- holger

By all means, please do write a howto guide, for posting in the Customised Builds forum My only concern is whether
or not it would infringe the Licenses of Netscape 7.1, the Browser Distribution Program and Client Customisation Kit.

Can you confirm that "Netscape has been axed"? IMO, NS is still alive (but only just), until AOLTW officially
announce otherwise. Until then, any speculation about Netscape's death is precisely that . . . speculation.

EDIT:
Oh dear . . . looks like I spoke too soon. According to this, Netscape (the browser) really IS dead . . .

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[holger]

By all means, please do write a howto guide, for posting in the Customised Builds forum My only concern is whether
or not it would infringe the Licenses of Netscape 7.1, the Browser Distribution Program and Client Customisation Kit.

I don't know whether it infringes the Licenses. But it could very well be the case. Also note, it is very unlikely that a CCK for 7.1 will be released now that Netscape is gone.

So I don't know if customized versions are tolerated at all anymore. I know from my Compact that Netscape tolerated it (I got a "Carry on" message once), but who knows what's AOL is doing now and perhaps I will have to remove Compact. Maybe it's time customizing Mozillas instaed of Netscape.

Anyways, I started working on a howto, it's here: http://www.holgermetzger.de/CCK.html
(under construction)

- Holger

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[Antony]

Netscape 7.1 Streamline is now available for testing. Please see Streamline 7.1 beta testing thread

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[Fulvio]

I am down to only Sillydog7.1. So far, I cannot anything obviously wrong.
One of my wishes is that Netscape would stop checking to open all images files. I never saw this when I had Mozilla as default.
And, you don't find this until you run into trouble or you notice something odd. I was working with the latest MozFirebird, and I noticed a bunch of Netscape icon, all of which were .gif files. That's ridiculous. Netscape is not an image manager.
As for the Themes, it is still unclear what the two obsolete themes are for, and if you can get any Themes for Netscape7.1. I have been able to get the great Skypilot theme, but nothing is approved at mozdev.org.

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[Fulvio]

A comment about memory and resources usage. I have been on NS7.1 for the past two hours. My mory is being clubbered by something, and it is only 75% load to start, now it is 95%. The resources went from 86% to 65, and thank to the handy Clear Cache button of the Prefbar I went up to 74%.
I have set the maximum capacity to 3072 kb. I did not like the lower value.
In general, I feel that there is no problem with the resources, but 128MB are no longer sufficient . Everything gets hold of the memory, and hangs on some. It is a jungle out there.

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[Edward]

There is no Memory Cache setting in either the Netscape 7.1 or Mozilla 1.4 Preferences, but I recall tweaking something to try to get it to run faster.

The default value for it was -1 (negative-one), meaning "automatic".

While I had Netscape 7.1 installed on the Pentium system (Linux only), I toyed with that setting (in one of the .JS files) to see if I could get it to speed up overall, since the Pentium is 166 MHz and both N 7.1 and M 1.4 require a minimum CPU speed of 233 MHz, but did not have any success. It was eventually removed from that system.
.
Mozilla 1.4's (Linux) PREFS.JS file does not have a Memory Cache setting.

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