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[prohan]

I am currently using an old browser on an old PC -- Communicator 4.06 on a 200MHZ Pentium PC, with 256MB of RAM and 6GB of free Hard Drive space. O/S is Win98.
I desperately need a browser update because every so often when I try to access a site (even a reputable one like Business Week magazine) the page does not download and thereafter I can not access any other web sites for the rest of the day -- I have to wait a full day before I can use the browser again!

But I saw that Navigator 7 has system requirements higher than what my PC can handle. So can I please have a recommendation as to what to use in place of my current browser?
(Please, no comments like "Buy a new computer.") Thank You.

Patrick

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.06 [en]C-NECCK (Win98; I)

[Fulvio]

I am currently using an old browser on an old PC -- Communicator 4.06 on a 200MHZ Pentium PC, with 256MB of RAM and 6GB of free Hard Drive space. O/S is Win98.
I desperately need a browser update because every so often when I try to access a site (even a reputable one like Business Week magazine) the page does not download and thereafter I can not access any other web sites for the rest of the day -- I have to wait a full day before I can use the browser again!

But I saw that Navigator 7 has system requirements higher than what my PC can handle. So can I please have a recommendation as to what to use in place of my current browser?
(Please, no comments like "Buy a new computer.") Thank You.

Patrick

Patrick, you have a pretty darned good computer, except for a poky processor. I have 128MB RAM, and 350Mhz, with cable connection. I do not know how dialup would do, but in my last year, at work, I was bestowed a generic computer with 64MB, 166Mhz processor, and barely enough HD to do anything. I had NS6.x, and Mozillas, and they did ok.
Of course, I keep my system clean. No Temporary File sees the light of the next day, and the cache is regularly dumped. I used 4.08 with good success till one year ago, so your problem may be of different nature.
I checked the Business Week website, and its home page was loaded in 10 sec, and a couple of links in 6 sec. I suggest 7.01 Streamline, or even a standalone, if you have access to mail elsewhere.
You contact me at: fperini01@softhome.net if you need any more assistance.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01

[jparsons]

I also have a slow computer at home (150MHz processor) and, until recently, used either Netscape 4.8 or Opera. Netscape 6 & 7 just dragged to the point where I wanted to beat my head against my monitor. I decided to download the streamlined NS7 from SillyDog hoping against hope that without all of the bloat, it might actually work. IT DOES!! It's still a bit slow, but it's acceptable. Since your processor is even faster than mine, I rather suspect you'll find it even better than I do. I would recommend giving it a shot.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.2b) Gecko/20021016 K-Meleon 0.7

[prohan]

Thanks to both of you for your advice. I just downloaded NS7 streamlined.
So presumably I have to uninstall Communicator before installing this. Is there any special procedure for doing the uninstall?

BTW, what was that "Installer" hyperlink that was near the hyperlink for the NS7 download? I don't think I need that, do I?

Patrick

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.06 [en]C-NECCK (Win98; I)

[Mandrake]

If you a real "Speed freak" then you could use K-Meleon K-Meleon!

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.8 [en] (WinNT; U)

[Fulvio]

Thanks to both of you for your advice. I just downloaded NS7 streamlined.
So presumably I have to uninstall Communicator before installing this. Is there any special procedure for doing the uninstall?

BTW, what was that "Installer" hyperlink that was near the hyperlink for the NS7 download? I don't think I need that, do I?

Patrick

In most cases, I would say, do not uninstall Communicator, but if you have cleaned the Cache, and it still hangs, there is Windows Control panel/ Add/Remove, and just select Netscape 4.06, only after you install NS7, and you know that it is ok.
What Installer hyperlink? If you mean below the Streamlined, etc. at the Sillydog Website, that is a different way of installing the program. I do not like it, but it is preferable for people who do not like to wait for a large download. With the Installer, you wait for the files, and if you have to reinstall, you would have to start from scratch.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01

[Antony]

Netscape Communicator might still be the best choice for those with slow computers.

(Posting from Netscape Communicator 4.8, not that bad at all.)

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.8 [en]C-CCK-MCD {SillyDog} (Windows NT 5.0; U)

[prohan]

How can that be when I have to continually worry if the next bookmark I click will be the one that causes my browser to be inoperable for the rest of the day?
BTW, any idea what could cause such a bizarre thing to happen? If it won't surf one day, why would it just work again the next? Did it need a good night's rest?

Patrick

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.06 [en]C-NECCK (Win98; I)

[Antony]

How can that be when I have to continually worry if the next bookmark I click will be the one that causes my browser to be inoperable for the rest of the day?

Patrick,
Are you talking about bookmarklet? OR a particular website that will crash your browser?

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 (CK-SillyDog)

[jparsons]

K-Meleon was the first gecko-based browser to work on my old computer. Phoenix 5 was the first Phoenix to work. And, of course, Netscape Communicator 4.8 worked great on it. My problem with any of them wasn't with the browsing but with the email program. I like to email web pages and forward HTML emails. And I have multiple POP email accounts and like to switch back and forth between them. K-Meleon and Phoenix are strictly browsers, Netscape 4.8 only allows one POP account (unless you use different profiles, which is limiting in itself), and Opera (which I also tried) only sends text. NS7 Streamline is the only one that allows me to do everything I want, which is why I put up with it being a bit slower than the others.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.2b) Gecko/20021016 K-Meleon 0.7

[prohan]

So does that mean that, if I don't need email functionality, I might be able to get both well-functioning browsing and speed with, say, the most recent version of Communicator instead of my current version, 4.06?

On the Netscape unofficial site's forum (http://www.ufaq.org/) a responder who seemed quite knowledgeable said that a streamlined version of NS7 would be best for me. Your advice seems to contradict that. What do you say?

Patrick

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.06 [en]C-NECCK (Win98; I)

[prohan]

Antony wrote:
Are you talking about bookmarklet? OR a particular website that will crash your browser?

I don't know what a bookmarklet is.
The problem is that when I go to certain sites, whether by typing in a web address or using a bookmark, the browser fails to load the page and thereafter I can't get to any other page for the rest of the day. The browser simply stops functioning, as if the web site in question had done something evil to it. So it's not really "crashing" the browser -- I can still use it -- but a bug that causes it not to browse.
[In some cases I CAN get to the page, but when I click on a link on that page I get a Server error message and then, once again, the browser won't work anymore for the rest of the day.]

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.06 [en]C-NECCK (Win98; I)

[Antony]

Well, I can only suggest you to test yourself.
However, if you don't need Mail feature, Communicator 4.8 is quite a big package, but go for BASE. Don't need to try Navigator 4.08, since there's no much difference from 4.06.
As for Streamline, I can't guarantee it will be faster (in your case), you are certainly welcome to test it you.
You can download the Streamline 7.01 version instead of Navigator 7.01 stand-alone, which is only 3MB larger and you can select not to install Mail component.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 (CK-SillyDog)

[prohan]

You can download the Streamline 7.01 version instead of Navigator 7.01 stand-alone, which is only 3MB larger and you can select not to install Mail component.

Why should I download the streamlined version if I'm not going to install the Mail component? Is it better than the standalone version?

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.06 [en]C-NECCK (Win98; I)

[Antony]

I don't know what a bookmarklet is.
The problem is that when I go to certain sites, whether by typing in a web address or using a bookmark, the browser fails to load the page and thereafter I can't get to any other page for the rest of the day. The browser simply stops functioning, as if the web site in question had done something evil to it. So it's not really "crashing" the browser -- I can still use it -- but a bug that causes it not to browse.
[In some cases I CAN get to the page, but when I click on a link on that page I get a Server error message and then, once again, the browser won't work anymore for the rest of the day.]

It is likely that the page does not display in Communicator 4.xx or that page does not exist.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 (CK-SillyDog)