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Chromium Leaves SeaMonkey in the Dust

Postby James » Mon 22 Aug, 2011 8:20 pm

Check out this review:

http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2011/05/ ... ey-2-0-14/
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Re: Chromium Leaves SeaMonkey in the Dust

Postby casey1992 » Tue 23 Aug, 2011 10:17 am

The review is for an old SeaMonkey based on Firefox 3.5. Newer versions should be significantly faster.
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Re: Chromium Leaves SeaMonkey in the Dust

Postby Fulvio » Tue 23 Aug, 2011 3:14 pm

So? Chromium is great! But, indeed, we have of blog of five months ago, which compares v.11 Chrome (now v.15) with 2.0.14 (or is it before 2.0.14) Seamonkey(now v.2.3). Most likely Chrome comes ahead again. This liking or not one program over the other rely on very subjective premisses. What if I like to open my mail and browser from inside a suite?
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Re: Chromium Leaves SeaMonkey in the Dust

Postby James » Tue 23 Aug, 2011 8:58 pm

It has to do with security as well as speed of rendering, Fulvio. It is what it is. Don't take this personally. It's just software and this technician was reporting on his findings. There's no right nor wrong ascribed to it. Look... I have SeaMonkey installed on my computer as well simply for old time's sake. I would never dream of making it my default browser/e-mail program simply because both FF/TB and Chrome/TB are so much better (in my estimation). BUT... I still play around with the suite from time to time to remind me of those heady days with Netscape.
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Re: Chromium Leaves SeaMonkey in the Dust

Postby Fulvio » Wed 24 Aug, 2011 11:57 am

James,
the article was way obsolete. I have not compared Chrome's security with the latest Seamonkey, and, as speed goes, Chromium's loads faster, but it has no mail. At this point, I have no deep feeling for Seamonkey, which has lost the ability to produce mail with my favorite Theme. I have not checked v.2.3.1, the latest one.
There are a lot of problems with Seamonkey, though. But my poor past experience with Chromium makes hesitant to embrace it . But, I am still looking at it.
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Re: Chromium Leaves SeaMonkey in the Dust

Postby James » Wed 24 Aug, 2011 9:13 pm

And as you can see from my user agent string, I'm currently using SeaMonkey. So far no problems whatsoever. I have the e-mail client set up to receive my hotmail, gmail and pop mail from my ISP. The browser portion of the suite works fine and seems to be just as quick as FF and just a tad slower than Chrome so it's fine with me. The few extensions I use (Lastpass and Adblock Plus) are both available as well. I'm getting used to it so we'll see how long I run with it this time around.
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Re: Chromium Leaves SeaMonkey in the Dust

Postby Edward » Tue 30 Aug, 2011 6:45 pm

SeaMonkey is a SUITE, all-in-one, easy to use.

Chromium is a BROWSER and only a browser.
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Re: Chromium Leaves SeaMonkey in the Dust

Postby James » Tue 30 Aug, 2011 8:32 pm

I realize that, Edward, as I'm certain the techie who wrote the original piece did as well. I think what he was really comparing was the browser portion of the suite over against Chrome in terms of its security and its ability at rendering pages.
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Re: Chromium Leaves SeaMonkey in the Dust

Postby DJGM » Mon 05 Sep, 2011 1:44 pm

James ... you might like to try the Mostly Crystal theme I use as my preferred theme on SeaMonkey.

And unlike other add-on developers, the maker of this theme usually has it updated quickly when a
new version of SM (and Firefox) is released, even since these current mad rush releases started!
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Re: Chromium Leaves SeaMonkey in the Dust

Postby James » Mon 05 Sep, 2011 6:50 pm

I'll give it a try and thanks for the tip. Now... Greg... you're going to hate me for this so let's blame my wife. She convinced me to try ie9 and so far I'm sort of liking it. I'm not going over to the Dark Side by any means but I told her I'd give it a try for at least a week. I use it in conjuntion with Office Outlook which we use at work. My wife's son (not mine) works for Microsoft so she has this "thing" about "keeping it in the family." LOL

Anyway... I also have Chrome and Firefox on the computer and up until recently I had SeaMonkey as well. I'm writing down the theme you mentioned so that when I try out SM next, I'll definetely take a look at this. Thanks.
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Re: Chromium Leaves SeaMonkey in the Dust

Postby DJGM » Mon 05 Sep, 2011 8:36 pm

Re: IE9 ... well, the rendering engine is improved over previous versions, but of course, you know my
view about over simplified GUI's. While it's possible to unhide the menu bar on IE9 and move the
tabs below the address bar, once the hidden elements are unhidden, there's no way of moving
them into sensible positions, and the whole thing looks like a dog's breakfast!

Meanwhile here's the full URL for that theme if you want to write it down . . .
http://tom-cat.com/mozilla/seamonkey/download.html
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Re: Chromium Leaves SeaMonkey in the Dust

Postby James » Mon 05 Sep, 2011 11:14 pm

Yeah... I've taken some of Cat Thief's other add-ons in the past (i.e. X tab to close a tab in SM).

I'm finding in ie9 that Lin is teaching me a new (well... different) way of browsing. Before I religiously used a favorites bar with folders on that bar, each containing a few websites of my favorite places). I would simply navigate from folder to folder and site to site during a session on the internet, sometimes visiting sites multiple times.

Now, I have my favorites pinned to the task bar. I can keep them open and view them with my new Logitech mouse that has a lower button which when clicked brings all my open sites into small, viewable windows should I want to bounce back and forth. Sites that I seldom visit but might need are added to bookmarks on my Yahoo home page which I can keep open on the ie browser window, also pinned to the task bar. It's not faster nor slower... just a different way of navigating and one that I'm learning to enjoy.

Will I keep this configuration and continue to use ie9 on a permanent basis? I doubt it. I've been using Netscape/Mozilla/Firefox/SeaMonkey ever since version 3.0 Gold of NS. You might say it's embedded in my blood by now.

But I'm open to new things so messing about with ie9 is a new experience for me that I'm enjoying for the time being.

I've bookmarked the site you mentioned. Thanks again.
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Re: Chromium Leaves SeaMonkey in the Dust

Postby cranuterj » Tue 13 Sep, 2011 9:33 am

casey1992 wrote:The review is for an old SeaMonkey based on Firefox 3.5. Newer versions should be significantly faster.

i'm using 3.6 and quite happy with it
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Re: Chromium Leaves SeaMonkey in the Dust

Postby richard mitnick » Thu 15 Sep, 2011 1:04 pm

Because I run two blogs and want each to have its own Twitter link, I need to use two browsers, one of which "knows" "MusicSprings" and the other "knows" "ScienceSprings". In both blogs, I use many hot links and a lot of graphics.

Luckily, I stumbled into using the two major Gecko browsers for these chores. I tried IE, Chrome, and Safari. None of them do what I need. FF and SM do what I need with ease.
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