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Postby Antony » Wed 14 Apr, 2004 10:00 am

djv1 wrote:
Antony wrote:You are not even allowed to play it in public places.

What do you mean, like saying where I DJ a dance I have to buy all the music or I walk around eith my head phones blaring I'm not allowed to do that?
The music album you bought from music shop. You get a copy of CD. You own that properties...
However, displaying (playing) it to public (including business venues) are generally NOT allowed, unless you get a special license of it.

It's very similar to DVDs, in the beginning of DVD, you will see all the copyright and usage restrictions.

In other words, license issue.
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Postby wolverine » Wed 14 Apr, 2004 7:29 pm

The whole music inudustry needs to be overhauled especially when mozart and beethoven is copyrighted. Copyright lasts too long and the fact that musicians have to sign away their rights to put out a record needs to change. Piracy of downloading music is a drop in the bucket. You got factories in china that are government run that make counterfiet cds and dvds. Until the industry addresses these sorts of things their outcry will fall on deaf ears.
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Postby Antony » Wed 14 Apr, 2004 8:08 pm

wolverine wrote:The whole music inudustry needs to be overhauled especially when mozart and beethoven is copyrighted.
There's a lifetime for copyright works.
Everyone can play/perform what Mozart or Beethoven wrote. However each individual's performing or stage show is protected by copyright laws. You can't simply record their performance and sell them.
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Postby djv1 » Thu 15 Apr, 2004 12:11 am

Antony wrote:In other words, license issue.


You expect me to get a licence in order to burn a CD off of the net? I don't think so.
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Postby Antony » Thu 15 Apr, 2004 12:18 am

proud to violate copyright laws?
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Postby djv1 » Thu 15 Apr, 2004 12:26 am

Sure why not it's fun to break the laws in some ways and honestly I think that the music industry has enough money to go around.
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Postby Antony » Thu 15 Apr, 2004 1:32 am

djv1 wrote:Sure why not it's fun to break the laws in some ways and honestly I think that the music industry has enough money to go around.
I am sure it would also be fun to steal your beef or pork. And I think you don't really need to sell those stolen live stock.
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Postby djv1 » Thu 15 Apr, 2004 1:38 am

What would it matter it's not worth anything anyway.
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Postby Antony » Thu 15 Apr, 2004 2:07 am

Most popular songs cost a lot to produce, to advertise, to market...
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Postby keith » Thu 15 Apr, 2004 3:18 am

if i could afford to pay to download music, trust me i would. Infact when i upgrade to highspeed interent i might try to find a website for downloading music with a monthly memnbership thing. then i might. but i can't aford a buck a song when i have 400 songs downloaded right now. And i do buy cd's at stores. Just not very often. and antony i see your point, yes maybe it is wrong, but well, i'm still doin it for now. They do make alot of money. Take Eminem. Hes loaded big time. hes got more just in his pocket then my whole entire farm is worth. ANd i know of lots of people who download free eminem music, including myself and hes not hurting over it. Same with Alan Jackson, or some of them other artiss out there. Kind of see my point?

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Postby wolverine » Thu 15 Apr, 2004 6:15 pm

Most of what I download off the net is software not music because most of the music I enjoy I already put on my computer form cds I got. I think in where I live copyright goes beyond the persons lifetime and I think there should be a time it becomes public domain. People are trying to copyright words and this is one of the ways that intellectual property has went too far in my opinion. If you want to make money off of something that is fine but trying to control the what people have access to and how they distribute it is counterproductive to any society and technology will by pass it in the long run. I do think intellectual property has a place in the future but in its present form it is like what the horse and buggy is to what we have today such as cars and other forms of transportation. Yes there are still those that will cling to those ways such as the amish and minnonites but time moved on. So will how copyright is seen and dealt with. Governments, Corporations, etc can fight this but it is something that is going to happen.
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Postby Lorraine » Sun 18 Apr, 2004 2:08 pm

In Canada we pay a tax for CD's, VHS cassettes, records and albums .
The money goes to help promote Canadian Artists.
So they say.
The price of a CD is sky high, plus we also pay 15% GSt tax.
The artist doesn't make very much money from the CD, I think it's less than a dollar. The record companies make a bundle.
I don't download from Kazaa or any other place, I did at one time when Napster first came out, but only a few songs. It became a nuisance as I was on cable and everyone was hooking up to my songs. I didn't like to cut them off while they were downloading and I ended up just watching people download. So I got rid of napster.

I have oodles of CD's which I very seldom listen to.
I do like Rod Stewart's "As Time Goes By" CD and I do play it now and then, when I am just reading .
I have Galaxy, 30 channels of music on my TV, so I can listen to their junk if I want. I like the Classical music and the Country musc channels.
Anyway, that's my thought's on the whole thing.
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