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Postby Pu7o » Fri 22 Jul, 2005 4:07 pm

Since don's probably not coming back until september (I read this on another thread), i took the GRE from Mozilla 1.7.10 and dropped it on Donzilla 0.7PR2 and the result: Donzilla 0.7PR2 with Gecko Runtime Environment 1.7.10

This should help donzilla users be safer :)

A linux version will be more difficult to get, since there's no separate linux GRE installer like the one here, but i'll probably get one soon. Enjoy! :)

I also fixed the names of the themes like i mentioned several weeks ago.
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Postby Pu7o » Fri 22 Jul, 2005 6:29 pm

By the way, Calendar is broken, and i forgot to fix that (it breaks on every GRE update). If you want Mozilla Calendar, you'll have to download it from its website and install it yourself.
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Postby TK19 » Sun 24 Jul, 2005 10:16 am

Don, If eventually you can, you should base Donzilla on Netscape 8.
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Postby Pu7o » Sun 24 Jul, 2005 10:52 am

if you look back in the thread, you'll find out that don has already stated that he won't move to standalone apps.
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Donzilla 0.7, based on Mozilla

Postby Don_HH2K » Fri 19 Aug, 2005 11:21 pm

Yes, I've been away awhile. Let's say I was on extended leave for awhile due to some undesired circumstances.

Allow me to clarify the things that have been left hanging since I have been away on this board.

Antony wrote:I've just noticed in one Chinese site (Hong Kong), someone is recommending DonZilla!

http://forum.icqmx.net/viewtopic.php?t=784

I am not too surprised. It starts small and spreads -- namely through C|NET, Softpedia, and God-knows-how-many places by now :) .

TK19 wrote:Don, If eventually you can, you should base Donzilla on Netscape 8.

I will not be basing Donzilla on Netscape 8. Donzilla will stay with Mozilla App-Suite until the Seamonkey project goes gold. However, I am doing some work on a separate browser, whose name has yet to be decided (probably Donzilla Lite or similar), and a separate mail client (either Hackmail or Netmail, don't know which yet).

It should be noted that while I was offline, Antony and me agreed about switching HH2K's server from http://don.sillydog.com to http://don.mozfaq.org . The URL for Donzilla's product page has changed from http://don.sillydog.com/DONZILLA.html to http://don.mozfaq.org/?main=/DONZILLA.php . The reason for the URL syntax change is due to the way URLs are handled -- a PHP script is responsible for changing the location accordingly.

Anyway, after three months of development dormance and a rather large amount of free time, I have built Donzilla 0.7 Final. The new release updates all compoentry to what I believe are the latest stable builds. Windows and Linux builds are available.

Specs for Windows build:
  • Now fully compatible with Windows 95 OSR2/NT4/98/ME/2k/XP/2k3, earlier versions of 95 need the Windows 95 Shared Libraries Update or Internet Explorer 4 installed.
  • New installer system: Advanced Installer 3 Freeware Edition. Requires Windows Installer 2.0 to install.
  • In accordance with redistribution licensing, all plugins save for the opensource MNG plugin have been removed. Alternatives are being considered.
  • Archive is roughly 50% smaller.
  • Download Donzilla 0.7 for Windows, 13MB

Specs for Linux build:
  • Requirements are those of Mozilla's plus a bzip2-compliant tool to unpack the archive.
  • Archive is roughly 3MB smaller.
  • [url=http://don.mozfaq.org/bin/donzilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-0.7-gtk2+xft.tar.bz2]Download
    Donzilla 0.7 for Linux[/url], 13MB


A Mac build is on the way as well. I just have yet to get the required resources for it.
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Postby Antony » Sun 21 Aug, 2005 2:39 am

Don_HH2K wrote:
Antony wrote:I've just noticed in one Chinese site (Hong Kong), someone is recommending DonZilla!

http://forum.icqmx.net/viewtopic.php?t=784

I am not too surprised. It starts small and spreads -- namely through C|NET, Softpedia, and God-knows-how-many places by now :) .
C|net? That's great. If I remember correctly, DJGM could not get his DJGM-Distro listed in C|net's Download.com few years ago.
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Postby Ron Williams » Sun 21 Aug, 2005 3:13 am

I did a search on Cnet and did not find it.
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Postby Don_HH2K » Sun 21 Aug, 2005 12:14 pm

Hmm.. I listed on C|Net but apparently didn't make it. This is news to me, because I received an e-mail from them saying that it was in their catalog. Ironically, though, other HH2K software is listed on C|Net. Seeing that DJGM did not get his builds listed either, do I sense a pro-MS, anti-Moz plot?
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Postby DJGM » Sun 21 Aug, 2005 12:41 pm

I tried to get my DJGM-i Distros of Netscape 7.x listed on CNet's Download.com website
after I'd noticed that someone had previously managed to get a customised version
of Netscape Communicator 4.5 listed on there, so I thought, "Why not?" . . .

Their reason for rejecting my application to have the DJGM-i Distros of Netscape 7.x
listed . . . IIRC, they thought I was breaching copyrights owned by Netscape, even
though I had pointed out in my application that the DJGM-i Distros complied fully
with all the terms of the EULA of Netscape's CCK.

I think that CNet have always had a pro-MS bias to a certain extent.
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Postby Don_HH2K » Thu 25 Aug, 2005 2:02 pm

Okay, if it isn't too early, I have started some extensive work on a 0.8 milestone. The new functionality is both visible and under-the-hood.

First, I am trying to uncompress my modified JAR files, which will result in speed increases when starting Donzilla. The archive size will probably be the same as if I had compessed them, because Advanced Installer automatically compresses archives with Microsoft's CAB compression scheme.

Second, I have specified what should be written to a new profile. Currently, if you create a new profile, you'll get lots of links to Mozilla.org and other Mozilla-related resources. Donzilla has links to some useful places, like HH2K, SillyDog701, and some other non-tech places (more like Netscape's approach to built-in boomkarks) such as CNN and The Weather Channel. These defaults will not override your current bookmarks.

Third, two new sidebars are included: Antony's SillyDog701 Sidebar and my HH2K Sidebar. They will be displayed automatically on new profiles, and can be selected via the Tabs drop-down for existing profiles.

Fourth, I have managed to modify and install two extensions to allow for distribution (normally they would install to your profile without asking). These are the MAF Extension, which adds support for Microsoft's MHT format and MAF's own MAFF format, and the Forumzilla Extension, which brings RSS support to Donzilla. Unlike other RSS aggregators for Mozilla, Forumzilla operates through the existing mail UI (which I consider to be a lot cleaner than the others that operate through tabs or the sidebar).

Fifth and last, I did a bit of work with the theme elements of Donzilla. The new default theme for new profiles is Modern. Chatzilla's default theme has been changed to the green-on-black theme that HH uses, except that the text uses monospace instead of OCR A Extended. OCR A Extended is OK for titles and such, but for reading any sort of text longer than a few lines, I'll admit it's annoying. For later on (namely, one of the 0.9 milestones), I am attempting to create my own theme that is HH-styled. Of course, the regular Classic and Modern themes would still be available. Chances are it will be based heavily on Negative Modern.

I also found a bug in how Windows XP handles Donzilla's mail client and calls it "HardwareHacks 2000 Mail" instead of "Donzilla Mail" in the Start Menu. This has been fixed, and if I need to I may release an 0.7.1 to remedy the problem in 0.7 as well. Unfortunately, I do not know why XP will recognize the browser as "Donzilla" in the Start Menu, but recognizes it as "Mozilla" in taskbar grouping and Windows Explorer. I haven't been able to test this bug in VMWare as of yet, so I am unaware whether it is because I installed and register Donzilla as "Mozilla" before customizing it.

Chances are, 0.8 will only have one preview release, as development seems to be going quite smoothly. The only for-sure exceptions to this are if PR1 has a number of large bugs, or if Mozilla publishes 1.7.12 and I am not ready to release 0.8 Final. The ETA for 0.8 PR1 is probably sometime next week, and 0.8 Final will hopefully be before September 6th. If it isn't, then there will probably be large delays.

Hopefully soon, Softpedia will receive at least one of my updates to Donzilla. I submitted once, and after not hearing back for awhile, I submitted again. I haven't heard anything on either one. Likewise, I haven't heard anything on the status of Donzilla's C|Net listing.

More to come . . .
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Postby Pu7o » Thu 25 Aug, 2005 3:28 pm

Don_HH2K wrote:First, I am trying to uncompress my modified JAR files, which will result in speed increases when starting Donzilla. The archive size will probably be the same as if I had compessed them, because Advanced Installer automatically compresses archives with Microsoft's CAB compression scheme.


If you used a build of mozilla compiled with a flat chrome, you wouldn't even need jar files, as such builds access the files directly on the chrome directory.
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Postby Don_HH2K » Fri 26 Aug, 2005 12:06 am

Pu7o wrote:If you used a build of mozilla compiled with a flat chrome, you wouldn't even need jar files, as such builds access the files directly on the chrome directory.


I am aware of that; I've seen it done in a few Linux builds. That's how I intended to do it, because XP's zipped folders doesn't have compression options.
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Postby Pu7o » Mon 12 Sep, 2005 11:22 pm

It seems that the Donzilla homepage breaks completely in Opera 8.10. Any chance of getting this fixed? :)
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Postby Don_HH2K » Tue 13 Sep, 2005 3:59 pm

Pu7o wrote:It seems that the Donzilla homepage breaks completely in Opera 8.10. Any chance of getting this fixed? :)


You said the problem yourself -- the Donzilla homepage.

But seriously, would you be able to show me what's happening? The only code that I might imagine is non-standard is The Weather Channel's script that I'm using to syndicate weather on that page.
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Postby Pu7o » Tue 13 Sep, 2005 4:34 pm

http://kernel.ws/~puto/donzillaphp-opera.JPG

As you can see, only part of the page shows up. The rest disappears completely. A bug on Opera 8.10's rendering skills, since it's still beta, perhaps?
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