SillyDog701

[Fulvio]

I see a few oddities in FF1.5.0.3,and will need some help in refreshing my memory. The first just happened again, after I typed "FF1.5.0.3".
I am not a typist, so I look at the keyboard more than the screen. In, at least, two newsgroups, I found myself typing away, and nothinghad appeared after a certain point, like what I said before, with no cursor in sight. Is it me, the keyboard, or 1.5.0.3? I never saw this in 1.0.8 or Seamonkey.
The second one I heard of, and even experienced with an early 1.5.x., i.e. when it called from a link, I get one inch square box, unmaximized. I get full screen, after maximizing, and things are ok for a few days.
The third one, I think was associated with an extention, but before I start removing all, or most of them, I would like some input. I get some requested popups which are not the full width, and can't be resized manually. I have checked the advanced javascript settings, and, see nothing wrong.
Thanks.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.3) Gecko/20060426 Hyperant Firefox/1.5.0.3

[gdrapeau]

Hi Fluvio, I have exactly the same problem than you, may be some others also, if you find the problems let us know.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.3) Gecko/20060426 Firefox/1.5.0.3

[ray5450]

I have experienced all 3 of those and this 4th:

After about 2 hours (sometimes more), of Firefox use, my computer locks up. There is no way out but to turn off the power. I have reinstalled Windows (98) and also Firefox (1.5) to no avail. It happens every day (#@%##!!) Any suggestions?

Thanks.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.8.0.3) Gecko/20060426 Firefox/1.5.0.3

[Fulvio]

With Win98 you have to worry about something that is no concern for XP.
You have to deal with resources, which are taken up, and not released. This is particularly bad if you end up with a lot of windows/tabs open. and, you will be affected more if your total RAM is rather low. 128 MB will knock you out in no time, 256 MB may last a bit more. I would say that 512 MB may be more like it. It was not so much fun with Win98, and, could operate at 256 MB RAM only if I cut down to the bare minimum of items in the startup, and could manage well only if I stuck only to browser or mail, and not both. I ended up to the danger point in a bit over one hour, if I had browser, mail, and music going. And, this was in the days before Firefox.
If you would use Netscape8.1, you would not last half as long.
But, again, the crashes can be reduced with fewer or no tabs and/or extentions.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.3) Gecko/20060426 Superbeast Firefox/1.5.0.3

[ray5450]

Occasionally, I get a "warning" that the crash is coming as suddenly the mouse pointer will hardly react or move. I know it is not a memory problem as I am able to, but slowly, open a memory display program that displays memory usage "on the fly" with an option to free up more. Free memory is never below 50-70MB, and after running it, goes up to 85 MB, but performance does not change. It must be something else...but what??

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.8.0.3) Gecko/20060426 Firefox/1.5.0.3

[Fulvio]

Free memory may not tell much, but what is the percentage. For instance if you have 256 MB RAM, and you are using 200MB, that's almost 80% usage. That is not so good. However, I had to get lower than that to have any serious problem. I, seriously, would check what you have at the Startup, and, what is the percentage used at startup. You should only have AntiVirus, Firewall, and necessary Windows stuff. Nothing else has to be at the startup.
Now FF1.5.0.3 is using 53MB of memory, and it may go up some, but it is not as bad as NS8.1 which, once, was using over 250MB of my 512. Still, FF1.5.0.3 does hog more resouces that I would like, but I can reduce that by cutting down of the extentions (I got 100, and Tabs (3).

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.3) Gecko/20060426 Spacetortoise Firefox/1.5.0.3

[ray5450]

The 50-70MB that I mentioned is during the time when all is good, and also after the "slow down". It does not make a difference how much memory is free. (??)

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.8.0.3) Gecko/20060426 Firefox/1.5.0.3

[Fulvio]

Ray,
the resources are a serious problem with Win98, but not in XP.
Most important is the fact that I have not seen any numbers about your computer, as for total RAM, and which other application are on when FF1.5.0.3 is off. That's critical.
As an example, I checked my memory use, and about 270MB are tied up, and, I am not using the somewhat memory hog 1.5.0.3. But, i can handle it, in spite of the fact that I am doing a virus scan, and am playing music with Winamp. However, I could conserve considerable memory, if I chose.
I have not opened iTunes in two days, but there iTunes stuff at the startup, as well as Open Office item which do not need to be at the startup.
Don't concentrate on Firefox, but rather see what else you have in the startup which you don't, really, need.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060414 K-Ninja/1.0.2 (Samurai)

[ray5450]

I understand what you are saying.

1. I do regularly keep track of everything in Startup. All I have besides normal Windows stuff, is anti-virus.

2. Nothing else is open/running (except Firefox) when this occurs.

3. This did not seem to happen with the version before 1.5

Does that help?
Thanks.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.8.0.3) Gecko/20060426 Firefox/1.5.0.3

[Fulvio]

Not yet. I need two more pieces of info.
1.Total amt of RAM which you have. If not sure,check My Computer|right click|Properties. The info should be at the bottom, along with the processor info.
2. If you mean v.1.0.x as the version before 1.5, you are correct. I have been griping from day one. My FF1.0.8, the latest version runs at 36 MB, while FF1.5.0.3 runs at 52MB. Seamonkey1.0.1 which clocks at 86 MB with mail open. The problem is that Seamonkey, as is Firefox1.5.x does not release the memory used ( I closed Seamonkey mail, and the memory use dropped 2 MB. With no mail SM runs at 62 MB).
If you system cannot handle the extra memory usage, you should take a step back to 1.0.8.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.2) Gecko/20060404 SeaMonkey/1.0.1

[ray5450]

1. Okay, I am at 128MB with usual 65-80MB free at all times with Firefox open. Usually, it runs a couple hours, without freezing, sometimes more, sometimes less. That's what I don't understand...my memory usage stays in this range, doesn't change much, and doesn't seem to be the problem.

2. Whatever the version was, yes.

Thanks.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.8.0.3) Gecko/20060426 Firefox/1.5.0.3

[Fulvio]

1. I don't have a working Win98, but your numbers don't seem right. They could be, barely, enough for dialup. So, may be someone with Win98 may want to comment.
2. http://sillydog.org/forum/sdt_11236.php

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060410 Firefox/1.0.8

[ray5450]

I have seen posts regarding a Firefox 2.0. Does this address and take care of this memory problem?

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.8.0.3) Gecko/20060426 Firefox/1.5.0.3

[Fulvio]

I have seen posts regarding a Firefox 2.0. Does this address and take care of this memory problem?

Firefox2.0 is still in its early phases, and, i think that it is still based in rv.1.8. I looked at it once, and , it did not have any obvious improvements, except for one which was later withdrawn. However, you problems are no problems for most of the people, because you work at the low end of the spectrum. I have another computer with 256MB RAM, and Win98SE, but, I don't see any point of using it to go online, since I have a much more reliable machine.
You will have to accept the fact that you will have to adapt to what is available.
I have been using a small program, based on rv.1.7.13, same as FF1.0.8, called K-Ninja Samurai. I would not recommend it for anyone's use, as its use is not intuitive. It is an offshoot of Kmeleon, and, the author is against bloat. There is no way to get extentions with it, and, he pushes for a single toolbar. I managed to get as many as three, but two are enough. It uses about 20MB of memory, for me, and less for others, and it flies!

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20060507 SeaMonkey/1.5a

[ray5450]

Okay, so obviously, both Netscape and now Firefox are being constructed to not release any memory. What is the purpose? What is the advantage of that?

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060410 Firefox/1.0.8 (ax)