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Firefox4 beta 10

Postby Fulvio » Wed 26 Jan, 2011 12:49 pm

I just got Firefox 4 beta 10. Check the lengthy release note, which make little sense to me. Presumably, it is supposed to be faster.
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Re: Firefox4 beta 10

Postby geffr » Sun 30 Jan, 2011 4:13 am

I just installed the beta 10. It's not picking up my 3.63 bookmarks. The places.sqlite file is where it's supposed to be, in Application Data/My Name/Mozilla/Profiles/(random characters)default

I am using Firefox 3.63 portable, if that makes a difference. I have noticed that if Windows opens FF 3.x rather then me opening it, I do get a different browser with no bookmarks or addons. I suspect that's coming into play here.

At any rate, can anyone tell me how to get 4 beta 10 to see my FF Portable profile?

I have a vague memory that going from 2.x to 3.x caused bookmark issues also, but I think that was from the .html to sqlite change. I do wish Moz made this sort of thing a bit less of a hassle.
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Re: Firefox4 beta 10

Postby geffr » Sun 30 Jan, 2011 4:29 am

I discovered portable Apps is offering their version of beta 10 so i tried it. It's also not picking up the 3.6.13 bookmarks or profile (sigh).
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Re: Firefox4 beta 10

Postby geffr » Sun 30 Jan, 2011 4:44 am

OK, I discovered Portable puts the profile in a totally different place: FirefoxPortable/Data/profile

Unfortunately......... pasting in the places.sqlite file hoses 4 b10, & I finally trued pasting in the entire profile which also hoses it.

I am now leaving this topic to others smarter than I, if anyone cares!
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Re: Firefox4 beta 10

Postby Fulvio » Sun 30 Jan, 2011 2:17 pm

In first place, it is not Mozilla which develops the Portable application. I don't have Portable FF4 of any kind, but I have both 3.6.3 and portable 3.6.3, but why do you mention places.sqlite, while bookmarks are as .json format? And, there is also a bookmarks.html file. You, probably, have messed up everything, but I may try to install the Portable 4.0. I will let you know what happens. Since I have the portable 3.6.3 in, both, the computer hard drive and a thumb drive, I don't care what happens. I would expect incompatibility with extentions. If you want both version, for comparison, you will need to install them in separate folders, and run them with their own profile.
I have done this with the normal Firefox, but, never, with the Portable one.
I will, also, take a look at the newsgroup, and see if anyone has done what you tried to do.
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Re: Firefox4 beta 10

Postby Fulvio » Sun 30 Jan, 2011 7:43 pm

I went into the Portable Apps website, and I checked the users newsgroup, and saw that a lot of people had problems. And, I saw this: We're sorry, but this release is temporarily unavailable due to a technical issue at SourceForge.net. The download seems to have been bad. I don't know for sure how to correct it, other than starting from scratch. Since the program is not listed in the add/remove, this means deleting everything.
I don't know what happened to your profile, but I would back up the profile folder, to have something available, if you have only the Portable version..
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Re: Firefox4 beta 10

Postby geffr » Sun 30 Jan, 2011 9:51 pm

Fortunately I did b/u my 3.x profile. Unfortunately I was so tired I still messed it up. Fortunately I was able to restore it pretty close from a combo of a 1/16 b/u & the recycle bin.

Re the bad portable dl, i read that also, but the dl had been restored directly below it.

Re: places.sqlite, I read online at Moz it was the true bm file for 3.x. You may very well be right about .json, it's been a long time since I messed with the FF bookmarks file (since the last major upgarde). I know bookmarks.html no longer works from 3.5x up (or was it 3.x?).

Again, i wish Moz would just make this easier. Thank god I didn't do an over the top install!
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Re: Firefox4 beta 10

Postby Fulvio » Mon 31 Jan, 2011 6:14 pm

It is easy to import any bookmark file from All Bookmarks(which gives Library| Import and Backup button.
As for the Portable download, there was no recommended download when I looked up, although one could still get the file, and, potentially make a mess. Again, the Portable site is not a Mozilla site.
I, personally, would be leery about depending, only, on a Portable app., and worse yet, a non final version, so I am carrying on the hard drive both the final version, which is installed, and the Portable one, which is not installed. By the way, did you read the [url=http://portableapps.com/news/2011-01-25_-_firefox_portable_4.0_beta_10_released] the page about b10? I can see, very clearly in bold letters that the download is not available
I have not tried any beta, but if I would, I would create a separate folder to work on it. You can copy the contents of the previous version, if you wish. And, see what is compatible.
As for the places.sqlite, read this article. My FF 4 b10 has both the bookmarks.html and the .json files in the bookmarksbackup folder.
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Re: Firefox4 beta 10

Postby PaulD » Wed 02 Feb, 2011 4:35 pm

According to this, the files named bookmarks in the Profile are pre-version 3. I have residual old ones dated 2009.
This is for 'regular' FF; is portable different?
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Re: Firefox4 beta 10

Postby Fulvio » Wed 02 Feb, 2011 6:50 pm

PaulD wrote:According to this, the files named bookmarks in the Profile are pre-version 3. I have residual old ones dated 2009.
This is for 'regular' FF; is portable different?


The point is not that the portable profile may be different, or that there is a bookmarks file, but, rather what one can do with such bookmarks file. I have not paid attention at what happens after each version comes out, but the Portable FF, requires a new installation for each version. The new installation replaces the previous one, but it is possible that the profile, which is located in this path: C:\FFportable\FirefoxPortable\Data\profile. The program is in: C:\FFportable\FirefoxPortable\App\Firefox. In addition, there are files in C:\FFportable\FirefoxPortable\App\DefaultData, which like the profile folder contains the bookmarks.html file. Such file can be imported, using the Library|Import and Export function. Mind you that I have a copy of the Portable in my hard drive, besides the thumb drive, where it belongs.
To make a long story short, my Portable which I have had for long time, contains the bookmarks.html, as well as the bookmarksbackup folder.
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Re: Firefox4 beta 10

Postby PaulD » Wed 02 Feb, 2011 10:55 pm

Yes, a 'bookmarks.html' file (or any_name.html) is the common export/import file for Bookmarks/Favorites. One advantage of the html-version, rather than the json form, is that it can be edited: that is, it is 'in English'.

What was implied, but not clearly stated in my note, is that one may check the html's file date to get a sense of currency. For 'regular' FF, the htmls have been abandoned for live use; but they are still supported for data interchange.

The 'starter' bookmarks that are set up when one creates a new Profile are in (XP path):
- C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\defaults\profile .
This parallels the path you give for the Portable version.
Again, this is only the initial Bookmarks. All files in the Backups folder are jsons.
I don't know why the html should be in the Backups folder in v4. Perhaps as a transition bridge?
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Re: Firefox4 beta 10

Postby Fulvio » Thu 03 Feb, 2011 5:08 pm

I don't think that I implied that the bookmarks.html file is in the backup folder of FF4. It is not.
As for the dates, the bookmarks.html vary. The profiles Portable FF 3.6.13, and the of the profile which I had used with FF3.5.x have bookmarks.html file dating back to the end of 2008. My FF4.x dates Dec.2, 2009, and the profile used for 3.6.13 has a June 25, 2010. Which means what?
As far as I recall, the 3.6.13 profile goes back to Firefox1.0x. In fact, it is named 1.0x. The 3.5 profile is named "Shiretoko" , according to a nightly of sometimes in the past.
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Re: Firefox4 beta 10

Postby Fulvio » Thu 03 Feb, 2011 5:13 pm

I noticed an error in my post of Jan 31. It should have included a link.
did you read the the page about b10
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