Gameblast.com via NS 7.1 & Firefox .8

Need technical advice on coding your web pages? Covers HTML, JavaScript, CSS, and some server side technologies. Also the issue of some webpages not displayed well.

Moderator: Don_HH2K

Gameblast.com via NS 7.1 & Firefox .8

Postby neonrich » Tue 20 Jul, 2004 6:21 pm

Hello :)

When I go to http://gameblast.shockwave.com/ the list of games on the right of the page does not show in Firefox (v .8). The rest of the page shows, and works (games can be played) but the list of available games does not show.

The list shows in Netscape 7.1, but 1) is not 'clickable' and 2) disappears
after scrolling down the page, reappearing after scrolling back up.

I have heard that others can see this list in Firefox and have it work.

It works as intended in IE6. The site says it's Mozilla/Netscape compatible
(though they only support the Netscape browser, which I find odd, but....)

I've uninstalled shockwave and the flash player, and resintalled both as per the instructions on the gameblast/shockwave site. No change...same behavior as before I did the un/reinstall.

Again, the games and other elements of the page work. Just not that list.
I'm not an html guru, and am not sure what sort of element this list is. Is
it flash? Javascript?

Java/javascript are up to date and working fine (as far as I can tell;
certainly haven't enountered any usability issues other than this) on all
browsers.

I do not have an ad blocking extension (such as AdBlock) enabled.

I am using XP Home.

I've been looking for a solution to the below for a little while, without
much success. I've been told:
1. It works in Firefox .9.2, upgrade to that
2. I shouldn't use Netscape

<sigh>

At the moment I'd rather stick with Firefox .8 as it's the latest version
that supports the Yahoo Companion For Mozilla toolbar, upon which I've
become rather dependent. Besides, since I've been having a similar issue
with my netscape 7.1 install it seems there's something *else* buggering
things up.

I've contacted Gameblast/Macromedia and their form letter instructed me to use Netscape or IE (I had mentioned I had troubles with NS 7.1 as well). So much for that.

This has become one of those annoying little things that I'd like to fix.
The site works fine in IE, so it's easy enough to use that..but it *should*
work in Netscape, and I really think it should work in my (default browser)
Firefox as well.

Thanks for any help :)

Rich
UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040206 Firefox/0.8
neonrich
member
member
 
Posts: 28
Joined: Mon 19 Jul, 2004 7:59 pm
Location: New Jersey, USA

Postby Wellander » Tue 20 Jul, 2004 6:29 pm

Hi,
I got it to work in communicator 4.03.
It might not be usable in gecko based browsers.
That seems odd.
UserAgent: Mozilla/4.03 [en] (WinNT; I)
Wellander
diamond member
diamond member
 
Posts: 2603
Joined: Mon 21 Oct, 2002 6:37 pm

Postby Don_HH2K » Tue 20 Jul, 2004 6:34 pm

You might want to try reinstalling Flash player and Shockwave player from Macromedia's homepage. That cleared out a few Flash errors for me when I was having problems. Second, there's no reason that you can't use Netscape. It might be a bit old, but a new release is expected in a week or two.
UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax)
User avatar
Don_HH2K
Moderator
Moderator
 
Posts: 5112
Joined: Sun 09 May, 2004 3:59 pm

Postby Fulvio » Tue 20 Jul, 2004 6:44 pm

I confirm that the list is not clickable in NS7.1, but it works in Mozilla1.7.1 and Firefox0.9.2, as well as 4.8.
UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707
A minority may be right, and a majority is always wrong
~ Henrik Ibsen
WinXP, SP3, 512 MB, SM2.9.1, FF12, TB12.0.1, IE8.0, Google Chrome18, Ghostwall , Avast 7.x, JRE1.7_04. Testing FF13b3
User avatar
Fulvio
Moderator
Moderator
 
Posts: 11915
Joined: Wed 19 Jun, 2002 10:08 am

Postby Don_HH2K » Tue 20 Jul, 2004 6:45 pm

In that case, it might just be a problem where NS7.1 is outdated, and Firefox has an update available.
UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax)
User avatar
Don_HH2K
Moderator
Moderator
 
Posts: 5112
Joined: Sun 09 May, 2004 3:59 pm

Postby neonrich » Tue 20 Jul, 2004 7:23 pm

Interesting, thanks. Unfortunately, I'm flat addicted to the Yahoo companion for Mozilla, and that no workie in firefox later than .8 yet.


Thanks for the *extremely* quick and helpful response. At this point we'll likely stick with using IE for it until either the Companion is updated or NS 7.2 comes out. Wife is the one that plays the games and I've just recently weaned her off IE..don't want to add confusion with yet *another* browser name :)

Thanks again, great support here.
UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040206 Firefox/0.8
neonrich
member
member
 
Posts: 28
Joined: Mon 19 Jul, 2004 7:59 pm
Location: New Jersey, USA

Postby Fulvio » Tue 20 Jul, 2004 9:54 pm

neonrich wrote:Interesting, thanks. Unfortunately, I'm flat addicted to the Yahoo companion for Mozilla, and that no workie in firefox later than .8 yet.

Thanks again, great support here.


I don't understand. Is Yahoo companion working with Mozilla1.7.1. I have not tried it, but Mozilla1.7.1 is the way to go, but if you have been having problems with the toolbar, and you need it, don't change.
I remember having the worst problems with the Yahoo toolbar in one of the 4.7x. And Yahoo has not given any sign of recognizing that there is a post 4.8 Netscape. But, I am curious about the Toolbar.
UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707
A minority may be right, and a majority is always wrong
~ Henrik Ibsen
WinXP, SP3, 512 MB, SM2.9.1, FF12, TB12.0.1, IE8.0, Google Chrome18, Ghostwall , Avast 7.x, JRE1.7_04. Testing FF13b3
User avatar
Fulvio
Moderator
Moderator
 
Posts: 11915
Joined: Wed 19 Jun, 2002 10:08 am

Postby neonrich » Wed 21 Jul, 2004 5:15 pm

It's not the 'official' Yahoo Companion, but a Mozdev project. Looks best on a 'classic' type theme. On NS 7.1 with Modern theme the 'drop down' arrows' are in the middle of the button (for example in the middle of "my Yahoo".

See:
http://companion.mozdev.org/index.html

Other than a slightly funky appearance under some themes, it's behaved nicely under FF .8 and NS 7.1.

For some odd reason, our computer (which we bought new in Feb 04) came preinstalled with NS 6.2.3, and it didn't work there :)
neonrich
member
member
 
Posts: 28
Joined: Mon 19 Jul, 2004 7:59 pm
Location: New Jersey, USA

Postby Fulvio » Wed 21 Jul, 2004 5:54 pm

Thanks, I will probably try it in NS7.1. I am using FF0.9.2, and it will probably not try it unless I am positive that I can remove it.
It may lead me to make peace with Yahoo.
A minority may be right, and a majority is always wrong
~ Henrik Ibsen
WinXP, SP3, 512 MB, SM2.9.1, FF12, TB12.0.1, IE8.0, Google Chrome18, Ghostwall , Avast 7.x, JRE1.7_04. Testing FF13b3
User avatar
Fulvio
Moderator
Moderator
 
Posts: 11915
Joined: Wed 19 Jun, 2002 10:08 am

Postby Don_HH2K » Wed 21 Jul, 2004 5:57 pm

It says there that it isn't fully compatible, which means there is a slight chance it may work. If you want to get a bit expeimentave, you could always try to install it into FF0.9.2 and see what happens.
IMO, there's nothing wrong with Firefox 0.8. Besides a few missing features, pages render fine. I've even been using Mozilla builds as early as Milestone-14 recently (which, for those who don't know, was like a Mozilla 0.3; Firefox 0.8 is based on Mozilla 1.6) and websites still work fine.
User avatar
Don_HH2K
Moderator
Moderator
 
Posts: 5112
Joined: Sun 09 May, 2004 3:59 pm

Postby Fulvio » Wed 21 Jul, 2004 6:20 pm

I, actually, used a FF0.9.1+ nightly, and nothing showed up.
As for NS7.1, I have two profiles. It must have either installed in one (toy shop), and it is, indeed funky.
A minority may be right, and a majority is always wrong
~ Henrik Ibsen
WinXP, SP3, 512 MB, SM2.9.1, FF12, TB12.0.1, IE8.0, Google Chrome18, Ghostwall , Avast 7.x, JRE1.7_04. Testing FF13b3
User avatar
Fulvio
Moderator
Moderator
 
Posts: 11915
Joined: Wed 19 Jun, 2002 10:08 am

Postby neonrich » Wed 21 Jul, 2004 7:41 pm

Yeah, when I tried to go to .9 it teased my by showing up physically, but only the dropdown menus worked. I uninstalled and attempted a resinstall and it would no longer show up.

I'm definitely waiting to upgrade until all the things I'm used to work...so far .8 is treating me well. I'm currently using the Firestone theme and Companion buttons show up great in it. If I could find a 'classic' oriented theme like that for NS7.1 it would likely show Companion better.
neonrich
member
member
 
Posts: 28
Joined: Mon 19 Jul, 2004 7:59 pm
Location: New Jersey, USA

Postby Fulvio » Wed 21 Jul, 2004 10:24 pm

neonrich wrote:Yeah, when I tried to go to .9 it teased my by showing up physically, but only the dropdown menus worked. I uninstalled and attempted a resinstall and it would no longer show up.

I'm definitely waiting to upgrade until all the things I'm used to work...so far .8 is treating me well. I'm currently using the Firestone theme and Companion buttons show up great in it. If I could find a 'classic' oriented theme like that for NS7.1 it would likely show Companion better.


Only the Classic work well. All the others are a mess. And, the darned things asks if I want to uninstall it, but it hangs around. I hate things like that. It is, probably in the profile chrome folder.
There are three instances of Yahoo in the Program|Chrome. One is the .jar file, and two instance in overlayinfo.rfd for navigator and browser. I deleted them, and the toolbar hangs around. I must have said yes to uninstalling three or times. And, I hate Yahoo with passion. Will keep looking.
The no uninstal is, aparently, is known bug,and the suggestion is to remove one item. I did that plus three more, and regain control of one profile, but not the other. Will have to do a bug report.
A minority may be right, and a majority is always wrong
~ Henrik Ibsen
WinXP, SP3, 512 MB, SM2.9.1, FF12, TB12.0.1, IE8.0, Google Chrome18, Ghostwall , Avast 7.x, JRE1.7_04. Testing FF13b3
User avatar
Fulvio
Moderator
Moderator
 
Posts: 11915
Joined: Wed 19 Jun, 2002 10:08 am

Postby Fulvio » Wed 21 Jul, 2004 11:21 pm

This is in addition to thre last reply. Should anyone care to file a bug for me, fine. I wasted a good hour on this, and I don't have patience for filling forms.
I can hide that toolbar, but it comes right back.
Fortunately, I have few plans for NS7.1.
But, this is my worse experience since Netscape6.0.
A minority may be right, and a majority is always wrong
~ Henrik Ibsen
WinXP, SP3, 512 MB, SM2.9.1, FF12, TB12.0.1, IE8.0, Google Chrome18, Ghostwall , Avast 7.x, JRE1.7_04. Testing FF13b3
User avatar
Fulvio
Moderator
Moderator
 
Posts: 11915
Joined: Wed 19 Jun, 2002 10:08 am


Return to Web Design and Page Coding

Who is online

Registered users: Google [Bot]