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Postby Antony » Sun 05 Jul, 2009 9:16 am

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Tidosho wrote:The stuff about the company, I can take, I lied, I deserved it,


So you never owned KJ Computers or KJC?


KJC wasn't as big as I'd made out it was. We worked from a small shop in Manchester,

Did you ever register KJC at all?

Did you also lie to Greg that KJC was a multi-nation company?


We were going to go Limited, but no, I didn't register, we went bust before I could. Greg knows all about it, we've discussed it, and I'm not going to talk about it in detail on here while he isn't here. I didn't tell him everything, though. The name was a lie, it was KJ Computers, not KJ Computer Corporation.

So, did Greg assume that it was a multi-nation company?

OR Greg knew that it wasn't a multi-nation company at all when he introduced you here?
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Postby Tidosho » Sun 05 Jul, 2009 9:18 am

I'm not sure of the answer to that. You'll have to ask him, I'm afraid. I don't know how Greg introduced me.
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Postby Antony » Sun 05 Jul, 2009 9:23 am

Tidosho wrote:I'm not sure of the answer to that. You'll have to ask him, I'm afraid. I don't know how Greg introduced me.

Okay, did you tell Greg the company was a multi-nation company? Or Greg knew it wasn't from the beginning?
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Postby Tidosho » Sun 05 Jul, 2009 9:26 am

He thought it was. I don't want to talk about Greg behind his back, if you want to discuss this, invite him here. He's my business partner, and we have an oath not to talk behind each others backs.
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Postby Tidosho » Sun 05 Jul, 2009 9:30 am

Tidosho wrote:He thought it was. I don't want to talk about Greg behind his back, if you want to discuss this, invite him here. He's my business partner, and we have an oath not to talk behind each others backs.


In fact, I don't feel comfortable discussing this in a public forum. I don't want any comeback because of the past. Do it in Private messages, if you would.
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Postby Antony » Sun 05 Jul, 2009 9:43 am

Tidosho wrote:He thought it was. I don't want to talk about Greg behind his back, if you want to discuss this, invite him here. He's my business partner, and we have an oath not to talk behind each others backs.


Thank you. It was not easy to get a straight answer from you as it seems.

I believe we were talking about what you told Greg, which clearly was not talking behind Greg's back.
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Postby Tidosho » Sun 05 Jul, 2009 10:09 am

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Tidosho wrote:He thought it was. I don't want to talk about Greg behind his back, if you want to discuss this, invite him here. He's my business partner, and we have an oath not to talk behind each others backs.


Thank you. It was not easy to get a straight answer from you as it seems.

I believe we were talking about what you told Greg, which clearly was not talking behind Greg's back.


Yes, but I don't want anything happening to Greg because of what I tell you. I would rather him come back and tell you himself. Greg lost his position as Moderator as a direct result of my actions, and I don't want him coming back here if he is going to be interrogated by Dr Lobster and the like, because we both feel that is what will happen. It was my doing, not Greg's. I was the one that lied. I'm protecting him from repercussions. He was nothing to do with KJC.
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Postby Mandrake » Sun 05 Jul, 2009 12:30 pm

DJGM does not need to be invited here; his account has always been active and he has always been free to come here whenever he chooses to do so.
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Postby Tidosho » Sun 05 Jul, 2009 1:30 pm

Mandrake wrote:DJGM does not need to be invited here; his account has always been active and he has always been free to come here whenever he chooses to do so.


No, I know he doesn't. His account has always been active, he knows. I will not, however, talk about him, or what we have discussed, whilst he refrains from participating here for the reasons in my last post. Even if he did participate, there are things I will not discuss on here, or allow Greg to, either for possible legal reasons, or because I deem it unnecessary.

From now on, what we do in our career is our business, and we don't have to explain ourselves.
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Postby Antony » Sun 05 Jul, 2009 8:33 pm

Tidosho wrote:His account has always been active, he knows. I will not, however, talk about him,

And you've been constantly mention about DJGM and DJGM's moderator position.


So the KJC never been a multi-nation or never had multi-branches to start with, why did you blame Dr Lobster* for KJC's ‘downfall’?
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Postby Tidosho » Mon 06 Jul, 2009 4:31 am

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Tidosho wrote:His account has always been active, he knows. I will not, however, talk about him,

And you've been constantly mention about DJGM and DJGM's moderator position.


Because I think it was wrong how he was affected because of me. He's done a lot for me, and means a lot to me, and I messed his long standing position here up. I feel terrible.

Antony wrote:So the KJC never been a multi-nation or never had multi-branches to start with, why did you blame Dr Lobster* for KJC's ‘downfall’?


I don't know, maybe because I was too out of myself to realise he was doing me a favour. I didn't like how he did it though, he could have handled it better. If I had been ripping people off or comitting fraud, then I can understand it, but I wasn't.
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Postby DJGM » Mon 06 Jul, 2009 8:55 pm

Ok, I'll try and keep this relatively short. Everything Tidosho has said in this thread so far, is pretty much as it is.

What has happened before now, going back to early 2007 and thereabouts, regrettable things may have been
said and done, various disagreements took place, and I disappeared off the radar into an unscheduled exile.

But as far as I'm concerned now, all that is in the past ... and I think that is precisely where it ought to stay.

We've both been quite busy with our firm, and our own seperate personal lives since then, and I'll admit among
the first he's done a hell of a lot of work to keep the firm going, despite the ongoing worldwide financial crisis.


I know my account on here has remained active since I last posted anything here. I've logged in a handful of
times mainly to check for any PM's and have a quick look around at what's going on. Although I'd noticed my
membership status has been changed to that of a regular member rather than a moderator. Y'know what?
I'm really not all that surprised, considering I haven't been posting here for quite some time. I'm happy
for my status to continue like that for the forseeable future, all things considered.

What I'll say now though, is that if I'm returning here as a contributing forum member, I may not be quite as
active as I was when I had moderator status. I'll re-iterate one thing though ... all that's happened in the
past, be it good or bad, should stay there ... period. Let's forget old grievances, and just get along.



Thanks for your attention.

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Postby Tidosho » Tue 07 Jul, 2009 4:44 am

DJGM wrote:Ok, I'll try and keep this relatively short. Everything Tidosho has said in this thread so far, is pretty much as it is.

What has happened before now, going back to early 2007 and thereabouts, regrettable things may have been
said and done, various disagreements took place, and I disappeared off the radar into an unscheduled exile.

But as far as I'm concerned now, all that is in the past ... and I think that is precisely where it ought to stay.

We've both been quite busy with KC, and our own seperate personal lives since then, and I'll
admit he's done a hell of a lot of work to keep the firm going, despite the ongoing worldwide financial crisis.

Let's forget old grievances, and just get along.

Thanks for your attention.

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Hi Greg,

Thanks. I just hope this will put an end to things. I've had enough already of explaining myself to people I don't know, and, frankly, don't even know why I'm bothering. Maybe it is because I DO care that I've hurt people. Leave me be, accept my apologies, and let me get on with my life. I've made mistakes, but we all do. It's part of being human.

I'm still half expecting Mr Lobster to reappear, even though he's not been on since September last year. If he does, and thinks I'm explaining stuff, he's wrong. I've done all the explaining I need to. Case now closed. Let me be the support guy I love to be, and get on with my career. Running a company in these times is hard, I don't need strangers making it harder dragging the past up when I made mistakes in the deep of depression due to a very personal loss. I regret even being on Metropol now, believe me. I had to excercise legal action with them to stop the crap.
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Postby James » Tue 07 Jul, 2009 9:10 am

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Leave me be, accept my apologies, and let me get on with my life. I've made mistakes, but we all do. It's part of being human.

I'm still half expecting Mr Lobster to reappear, even though he's not been on since September last year. If he does, and thinks I'm explaining stuff, he's wrong. I've done all the explaining I need to.


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Perhaps you have this backwards. In other words, it is YOU who came back here. Perhaps it is WE who will say when the past can remain in the past. Perhaps it is WE who were lied to continuously for months will say when enough is enough. Why on earth would you and Greg believe that a few "I'm so sorry"(s) would suddenly change our minds about you? It takes time to regain trust and a few apologies is simply not enough. It's one thing to say, "We forgive" and quite another for trust to be restored. Perhaps we NEED to check into the past in order to determine whether or not you have, in fact, changed. And if that is not good enough for you, then there's always the same door out through which you entered uninvited a few days ago.
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Postby Tidosho » Tue 07 Jul, 2009 9:27 am

James wrote:
Tidosho wrote:
Leave me be, accept my apologies, and let me get on with my life. I've made mistakes, but we all do. It's part of being human.

I'm still half expecting Mr Lobster to reappear, even though he's not been on since September last year. If he does, and thinks I'm explaining stuff, he's wrong. I've done all the explaining I need to.


Tidus

Perhaps you have this backwards. In other words, it is YOU who came back here. Perhaps it is WE who will say when the past can remain in the past. Perhaps it is WE who were lied to continuously for months will say when enough is enough. Why on earth would you and Greg believe that a few "I'm so sorry"(s) would suddenly change our minds about you? It takes time to regain trust and a few apologies is simply not enough. It's one thing to say, "We forgive" and quite another for trust to be restored. Perhaps we NEED to check into the past in order to determine whether or not you have, in fact, changed. And if that is not good enough for you, then there's always the same door out through which you entered uninvited a few days ago.


Fair enough. I understand you totally. But, I do NOT have to answer questions about my personal life, or career to ANY of you, so just remember that. My life is my business, nobody else's, BUT, I will do what is necessary, ONLY, and ONLY for the reason that I like you guys, and want to make up to you. It is only for the reason that Antony was so kind to me, and I mucked up, that I'm doing this. SillyDog is a good forum, and in time, I feel that regaining your trust, the future could be good for us, both SillyDog itself, and our online relationships. I feel I could be a good asset to this forum, but I need to work for it, as you've said, and work I'll do, no matter how long it takes. This alone should show you how committed I am. No other forum made me feel as welcome as you guys did.
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