SillyDog701

[Antony]

Why should it have been released by now?

Why not?

Who said it shouldn't?

You asked "Why should it have ...",
I simply asked back.

Okay, I'll bite. Why not what, exactly?

I said, I only asked back, because you said why it should have been released.
and I know you know that the question "Why should it have been released by now?" also indirectly imply to "it shouldn't have been released by now."
Hence I asked you.

And don't worry, although we, SillyDog701, may not have first hand information, we are still the leading Netscape supporting website.

What does "leading Netscape supporting website" mean?

I re-structured my sentence, it should be clear by now. Sorry.

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[ChrisI]

I said, I only asked back, because you said why it should have been released.
and I know you know that the question "Why should it have been released by now?" also indirectly imply to "it shouldn't have been released by now."
Hence I asked you.

Okay, so if I understand you correctly, you are asking me why Netscape 7.2 should not be released by now.
Well, if someone were to claim that Netscape 7.2 should not be released by now, I would give that person the same answer I gave Wellander, which is this:
http://sillydog.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=36945#36945

I re-structured my sentence, it should be clear by now. Sorry.

What does "leading website for Netscape/Mozilla users" mean.

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[Fulvio]

I re-structured my sentence, it should be clear by now. Sorry.

What does "leading website for Netscape/Mozilla users" mean.

How about "comprehensive"? I don't think that any website has the Archives, and a very broad range of users fora.
I have become disenchanted with the Champion's fora. Not all, but there so many endless thread which add no useful information.

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[ChrisI]

How about "comprehensive"? I don't think that any website has the Archives, and a very broad range of users fora.
I have become disenchanted with the Champion's fora. Not all, but there so many endless thread which add no useful information.

So you think that sentence should read "...we still have the broadest range of users fora"?

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[Fulvio]

Does it make any difference what I think? There will be no more replies. I was afraid I was feeding the fire. I was correct.
The entire thread was pointless. I am out of this.

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[Don_HH2K]

I really don't think that AOL has any reason not to relesae a new Netscape anytime soon. After all, when Gecko from Mozilla 1.4 goes the way of the Communicator rendering engine, users of the Netscape Internet service will be left with a browser that doesn't work and a $10USD bill for it every month. For all we know right now, Netscape could be porting Netscape features directly from 1.4RC3 to 1.7... I'd give it until mid-August to declare Netscape completely dead.

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[ChrisI]

I really don't think that AOL has any reason not to relesae a new Netscape anytime soon...For all we know right now, Netscape could be porting Netscape features directly from 1.4RC3 to 1.7...

That's just it. You don't know. To paraphrase the post that I keep posting a link to;
Unless someone here works for Netscape (AFAIK, no-one here does), no-one here knows exactly what Netscape is doing to the Mozilla code, and how to do it. Without that knowledge, there's no point in stating a proper time frame for the release of 7.2.

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[Edward]

Hi,
Mozilla 1.7 has been released.
In the past if has not taken this long.
I want to see a download soon.

Netscape will release it when it's ready.

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[Antony]

ChrisI,

I re-structured my sentence, it should be clear by now. Sorry.

What does "leading website for Netscape/Mozilla users" mean.

That's very obvious, isn't it?
If you really don't understand, you might want to check this screenshot. Or should I put more words?

Fulvio,
thank you for the suggestion, I will figure out a better way to put those words.

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[Don_HH2K]

ChrisI: Noticing yous useragent, I would like to ask this:
Is there an NS7.2 build floating around somewhere or is that spoofed?

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[Antony]

I really don't think that AOL has any reason not to relesae a new Netscape anytime soon...For all we know right now, Netscape could be porting Netscape features directly from 1.4RC3 to 1.7...

That's just it. You don't know. To paraphrase the post that I keep posting a link to;
Unless someone here works for Netscape (AFAIK, no-one here does), no-one here knows exactly what Netscape is doing to the Mozilla code, and how to do it. Without that knowledge, there's no point in stating a proper time frame for the release of 7.2.

People speculate the feature or time frame of the Netscape 7.2 simply indicates people's interests in Netscape 7.2. That's a positive signal. There's nothing wrong with that.

However, using SillyDog701 visitors' interests in Netscape to their disadvantage by fooling them is not appreciated.

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[ChrisI]

What does "leading website for Netscape/Mozilla users" mean.

That's very obvious, isn't it?
If you really don't understand, you might want to check this screenshot. Or should I put more words?

I really don't understand. You posted a screenshot of the Netscape UFAQ, which I assume is one of the sites you are comparing Sillydog with; but that's all it really tells me. Please be as specific and literal as possible, with back up of your claims.
Leading in what?
How does one measure that?
What data did you measure, that made you conclude that Sillydog the "leading" website?

People speculate the feature or time frame of the Netscape 7.2 simply indicates people's interests in Netscape 7.2. That's a positive signal. There's nothing wrong with that.

Speculating a release date is one thing. When someone claims when it should be released, that goes from speculation to expectation. To everyone: Keep a level head.

ChrisI: Noticing yous useragent, I would like to ask this:
Is there an NS7.2 build floating around somewhere or is that spoofed?

It is real.
The Netscape Champions and Mozilla Champions are privy to all Netscape pre-releases.
This is given with the condition that we do not disclose associated info without authorization. Many years ago, Netscape even had each of the Netscape champs sign a Non Disclosure Agreement.

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[Antony]

What does "leading website for Netscape/Mozilla users" mean.

That's very obvious, isn't it?
If you really don't understand, you might want to check this screenshot. Or should I put more words?

I really don't understand. You posted a screenshot of the Netscape UFAQ, which I assume is one of the sites you are comparing Sillydog with; but that's all it really tells me. Please be as specific and literal as possible, with back up of your claims.
Leading in what?
How does one measure that?
What data did you measure, that made you conclude that Sillydog the "leading" website?

That screenshot is the front page of ufaq.org. And I learnt from them, put something similar, except I haven't mentioned that in SillyDog701 front door.

OR perhaps, I shall mention more, including the traffic report (hits). Sadly, "7 Million hits annually" does not apply to SillyDog701, SillyDog701 has more than "7 Million hits" in less than two (2) months.

Isn't SillyDog701 the leading website in terms of supporting Netscape/Mozilla?

People speculate the feature or time frame of the Netscape 7.2 simply indicates people's interests in Netscape 7.2. That's a positive signal. There's nothing wrong with that.

Speculating a release date is one thing. When someone claims when it should be released, that goes from speculation to expectation. To everyone: Keep a level head.

People give certain products some expectation simply indicates people's interest and loyalty in certain porducts. People showed their hope on the products and the hope on the companies (or organisations) behind the products. That is something very nice to have. Most companies/organisations want to have such support from their customers/users.

Now, why are you so negative on people's speculations and expectations?

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[Edward]

ChrisI: Noticing yous useragent, I would like to ask this:
Is there an NS7.2 build floating around somewhere or is that spoofed?

It is real.
The Netscape Champions and Mozilla Champions are privy to all Netscape pre-releases.
This is given with the condition that we do not disclose associated info without authorization. Many years ago, Netscape even had each of the Netscape champs sign a Non Disclosure Agreement.

<soapbox mode>

I did not appreciate reading the fact that entry into the Mozilla Champions group is by invitation. Mozilla is now open-
source, incidentally.

There should be NO EXCLUSIVITY with anything related to Mozilla whatsoever, and that includes voluntary programs. If ANYONE
wants to help out with ANY aspect of Mozilla and that includes helping others, they should be welcomed and allowed to, period,
no questions asked.

As far as I am concerned, if I use a pre-release/release candidate/final release of Mozilla, find a bug, report it, I consider
that as having helped the Mozilla community at-large by finding the bug and reporting it. It's then up to the coders to
validate and fix the bug.

</soapbox mode>

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[Jeffredo]

ChrisI: Noticing yous useragent, I would like to ask this:
Is there an NS7.2 build floating around somewhere or is that spoofed?

It is real.
The Netscape Champions and Mozilla Champions are privy to all Netscape pre-releases.
This is given with the condition that we do not disclose associated info without authorization. Many years ago, Netscape even had each of the Netscape champs sign a Non Disclosure Agreement.

Thanks Chris. I for one will be patient (and happy it's truely coming!).

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