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Postby Pu7o » Fri 15 Jul, 2005 8:26 am

TK19 wrote:I do not have the money to buy another system


You can download a free 6-month trial of Windows Server 2003 from Microsoft, and follow this guide to convert it to a workstation :)
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Postby Antony » Fri 15 Jul, 2005 8:30 am

Pu7o wrote:
TK19 wrote:I do not have the money to buy another system


You can download a free 6-month trial of Windows Server 2003 from Microsoft, and follow this guide to convert it to a workstation :)
I won't recommend running Windows Server 2003 under Virtual PC.

Windows Me will do, except you will need to disable a number of the fancy features including the Recovery thing.
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Postby TK19 » Sat 16 Jul, 2005 7:42 pm

I transfered Netscape 8 Beta and 8.0.2 from my dad's Windows XP computer to a cd to my Windows Me on VPC. Heres what I get when trying to run NS 8 B. It is unable to run it because it is an invaled format. When trying to run 8.0.2 First a Corrupted file (one of the .DLL files) then another invaled format!!

AHH!!!!! I HATE EMULATORS!!!!! :evil: :evil: :x :x :roll: :roll:
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Postby Antony » Sat 16 Jul, 2005 11:38 pm

TK19,

Are you familiar about how to transfer files between Mac and Windows (under Virtual PC)? I would suggest you read the help file first.

If you copied all the files correctly, it shouldn't be a problem.
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Postby TK19 » Fri 22 Jul, 2005 7:54 pm

Farmiliar? Do you mean just dragging and dropping them? If not that way im not farmilliar.
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Postby TK19 » Fri 22 Jul, 2005 8:12 pm

I noticed that Andrew T. posted this before

The Netscape 8.0 Beta officially supports being installed and run on Windows 98, ME, 2000, and XP.
When attempting to run the installer on an unsupported Windows version such as Windows 95 or NT 4.0, the following dialogue immediately appears:


However, earlier I found that I was actually able to successfully run the first Netscape 8 prototype on Windows 95 OSR2 by installing it on a different system meeting the published requirements, packaging it into a ZIP archive, copying it across, and unzipping the archive:


Since I was naturally curious and still use Windows 95, I decided to do some experimentation and hacking to see if I could "fool" the installer into working. I opened the Registry Editor, and after making a backup of the branch I edited several strings in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion. I changed "ProductName" to "Microsoft Windows 98," "Version" to "Windows 98," and "VersionNumber" to "4.10.2222A." I rebooted, then tried running the Netscape 8 Beta installer.

The result was slightly interesting. The installer no longer prompted me with the "Netscape will not run on Windows 95" dialogue, and the "Please wait while setup is loading..." message actually appeared. After that, however, nothing happened and no further dialogues appeared; the Netscape installer file remained present in memory until I killed it through the Close Program dialogue box.

Perhaps it is actually the installer that requires Windows 98 (and 64MB of RAM, for that matter) to work.

Well, I finally got to try the Netscape 8.0 Beta out. As with the earlier prototype, to run it on Windows 95 I needed to have it installed on a different system, compress it into an archive, and copy it across.



My impressions:

First of all, I do think the new theme is slightly cleaner and easier on the eyes than the old one, although I would have still preferred for the program to use system colors. And the menu bar can now be positioned toward the left edge of the screen, where it belongs. Overall, the software looks much more "polished" than it did when the very first prototype was released to testers in December.

Unfortunately, I still find that the plusses are overwhelmingly outweighed by the minuses. The toolbar and overall user interface are still extremely cluttered and confusing. There are lots of extraneous and/or non-intuitive controls and widgets, such as this bank of mystery buttons in the upper left corner:

In terms of performance, Netscape 8.0 Beta remains a bit more sluggish than Mozilla Firefox in most ways.
I find it annoying that by default new tabs automatically go to Netscape.com when opened. Netscape 8.0 Beta contains a full-featured sidebar like the Mozilla application suite does, but the capability of adding tabs (such as the SillyDog701 Sidebar) is broken.
I find the whole notion of "trusted" versus "untrusted" sites confusing, and it's irritating that a few dozen sites were pre-configured in Preferences to "trusted" status and, thus, be rendered with the Internet Explorer rendering engine.
Needless to say, the IE rendering feature does not work on a system such as mine that does not have Internet Explorer installed.
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Do you still have zip files from prototype, beta, and 8.0.1? Or do you have a web adress that I can go to? If you have the files please send them to me somehow. THANKS IN ADVANCE!!
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Postby TK19 » Fri 22 Jul, 2005 8:52 pm

hmm....I just thought this....Would it not work if it was not zipped up? I just installed it, put the files on a cd (non-zipped), made it, and deleted the files from my dads computer.
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Postby beanboy89 » Fri 22 Jul, 2005 9:07 pm

TK19 wrote:hmm....I just thought this....Would it not work if it was not zipped up? I just installed it, put the files on a cd (non-zipped), made it, and deleted the files from my dads computer.

Try the following:
  1. Download the full installation of Netscape 8.0.2 onto the PC you wish to install Netscape to. (Try to avoid the stub/net installer.)
  2. Install Netscape 8.0.2. Make sure the PC to which you install Netscape onto is capable of running the installer.
  3. Find the directory where you installed Netscape 8.0.2.
  4. Make an archive (ZIP or RAR) of that entire directory.
  5. Put the archived file (*.ZIP or *.RAR) onto a CD or other recordable media.
  6. Load the CD onto your PC (or VirtualPC installation).
  7. Unzip the file.
  8. Find and open the [tt]netscape.exe[/tt] file.
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Postby TK19 » Mon 25 Jul, 2005 11:15 pm

FINALLY!!!! I got NS 8.0.3.1 up and running thanks to Antony...THANKS ANTONY!!!!!! :D
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