Jay Garcia's response after Hurricane Katrina

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Postby Ron Williams » Fri 23 Sep, 2005 2:18 pm

JayGarcia wrote:You can say whatever you want


If that were true, then I would not have to take a screenshot of every post I make to here.
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Postby JayGarcia » Fri 23 Sep, 2005 2:28 pm

It IS true, you really CAN say whatever you want .. There may be consequences tho .. :-(
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Postby Pu7o » Fri 23 Sep, 2005 2:52 pm

Actually I know that VNC it meant to remotely access another desktop. That is completely and utterly different from a VPN, which is acessing another network connection in a similar method to a proxy. (I use RealVNC myself, too)
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Postby Lorraine » Fri 23 Sep, 2005 3:07 pm

It was just my fancy HTML or bb code or something :)

And you told me it was the bot after I was reinstated Jay. You told everyone that I was not banned anymore and that we had settled it amicably by email, I believe it was in Sillydog too.

I think I still have that message.

I always thought you were being straight with me, but in the latter message, I now know that you do not tell the truth, as you need a very good memory when you tell the truth.






You change your mind as fast as the weather changes.
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Postby JayGarcia » Fri 23 Sep, 2005 3:09 pm

I run with a Cisco 1700 series router with built-in VPN. Users with VNC viewers access the VPN in that fashion. There's more to it than that , Firewall issues and security, etc., but that will suffice nicely for now. Please don't attempt to lecture me in this venue as I am Cisco Certified and there are many many tricks in the trade. Antony will tell you this on AIM, won't he? Whether or not I say VPN or VNC, it doesn't matter does it. You're attempting to pick a fight where none exists.

Just to sum up once again ... DrDean is a real person living in Canda and accesses the net through my <whatever you wish to call it> and thereby exhibits the same connection IP as everyone else on my system, including me. And THAT is what led Antony down the wrong assumption path, the same IP when registering and posting here.

What really ticked me off is that Antony could have had the common decency and courtesy to private mail me with related questions, but as we all know, that didn't happen, did it.


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Postby JayGarcia » Fri 23 Sep, 2005 3:19 pm

Make up your mind Lorraine, you either believe it was the bot or you don't.
I repeatedly was removed and you said it was the bot. But I know it wasn't the bot.
and then you say
And you told me it was the bot after I was reinstated Jay
Please let me know how many times I have to tell you it was the bot. Now, this doesn't mean that there were others that manually cancelled your posts, but for the record I NEVER manually cancelled ANY of your posts.

And then
I always thought you were being straight with me
I was always "straight" with you Lorraiine, remember all those private emails??
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Postby Lorraine » Fri 23 Sep, 2005 3:20 pm

I believe you said in the thread somewhere that Dr. Dean was a teacher at a University in France.

Quebec is in Canada, not France.
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Postby JayGarcia » Fri 23 Sep, 2005 3:33 pm

I believe you said in the thread somewhere that Dr. Dean was a teacher at a University in France.
I'll ask her the next time we speak but I don't think I ever mentioned anything like that. What I remember saying in THIS thread is that DrDean was the Dean of the School of Clinical Psychology at a major universtiy in Europe, not France. And I know where Quebec is. DrDean hasn't died yet so she hasn't lived there all her life yet. She was born in Europe somewhere where she spent most of her childhood only to move to Canada with her husband after both retired.

Cut out the "witch hunt" Lorraine, you're posting silliness again trying in vain to catch me in some typo or whatever like Antony does.
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Postby Lorraine » Fri 23 Sep, 2005 3:56 pm

JayGarcia wrote:Make up your mind Lorraine, you either believe it was the bot or you don't.
I repeatedly was removed and you said it was the bot. But I know it wasn't the bot.
and then you say
And you told me it was the bot after I was reinstated Jay
Please let me know how many times I have to tell you it was the bot. Now, this doesn't mean that there were others that manually cancelled your posts, but for the record I NEVER manually cancelled ANY of your posts.

And then
I always thought you were being straight with me
I was always "straight" with you Lorraiine, remember all those private emails??


Yes, I remember all the emails and the warnings. You notified me publicly and the others privately. It was a long time ago.

I also remember when my son died and I made a post a few days later and you removed it. You said, "Sorry, you didn't know, I should have told you. " How was I supposed to tell you. You blocked me from your addy, remember?

I know that Dantu used to remove me all the time, along with some others. As an administrator, it should be posted who the moderators are that are able to cancel posts or messages. I know Jeanne knew how to do it, but she said she would never cancel anyone. I believe her, at least she does know about computers.

Otherwise, I only know of Dantu &probably Sharonwho cancelled. The day I was cancelled, Dantu was removing me continually after calling me a liar. I was furious. He's not a man, he wouldn't let me write my response.
How long do the idiots hold grudges?

Jay, I won't lose any sleep over not being able to get in NTMM.

I am quite happy using IE/OE even tho' I have a lot of problems. But at least I can get help in annexcafe.com and I have learned quite a lot since being in there. But I was thinking of downloading 1.7.12 to try it out, but now I know I won't.

Anyway, I don't like airing all this in public but as you would never even let me email you, I think you are probably Dantu as well.

I thought that we were friends and I know you helped me a lot, for which I thank you, I always thought you knew what you were talking about and explained well.

I imagine you are in Seattle now, far away from the flooding. So much for imagination......lol
Watch out for the earthquakes on the West coast.
So Long Jay
-Lorraine
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Postby JayGarcia » Fri 23 Sep, 2005 4:01 pm

I think you are probably Dantu as well.
I'm also Mickey Mouse, pass the cheese.

And I have no idea where you got Seattle from. I currently live in my office in Kenner, LOUISIANA until I can get access to my home in New Orleans, only 25 mins away ....
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Postby Lorraine » Fri 23 Sep, 2005 4:18 pm

JayGarcia wrote:
I believe you said in the thread somewhere that Dr. Dean was a teacher at a University in France.
I'll ask her the next time we speak but I don't think I ever mentioned anything like that. What I remember saying in THIS thread is that DrDean was the Dean of the School of Clinical Psychology at a major universtiy in Europe, not France. And I know where Quebec is. DrDean hasn't died yet so she hasn't lived there all her life yet. She was born in Europe somewhere where she spent most of her childhood only to move to Canada with her husband after both retired.

Cut out the "witch hunt" Lorraine, you're posting silliness again trying in vain to catch me in some typo or whatever like Antony does.


You have too much time on your hands these days Jay. You are losing it. I am not on a witch hunt. What the heck do I care how many mistakes in typing you make. I make enough mistakes myself. You are the silly one.

I mentioned about Dr. Dean because it was mentioned as you say, she was a Dean of whatever in Europe.
I just figured France as she said at one time that she studied in Quebec. They can all go to bloody France.
Anyway, I don't believe a word of that story.
So there, like it or lump it!

Are you still selling used cars?

I don't think Antony would try to catch anyone with a typo. His command of english isn't good enough to be a teacher of english, altho' he sure writes very well, a lot better than my Chinese.


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Postby Lorraine » Fri 23 Sep, 2005 4:32 pm

JayGarcia wrote:
I think you are probably Dantu as well.
I'm also Mickey Mouse, pass the cheese.

And I have no idea where you got Seattle from. I currently live in my office in Kenner, LOUISIANA until I can get access to my home in New Orleans, only 25 mins away ....


I know where Kenner is, but all of Texas is going to get tornados and flooding according to CNN. So just figured you knew someone in Seattle, perhaps San Francisco who would be willing to put up with you for a few weeks maybe.

I told you that Kenner is a twin city of LaSalle which is part of Montreal now, since it merged last year or so.
I used to swim in Lasalle daily as a child and I also swam in LaSalle as a teen. There is a picture of me in Flat Rock, LaSalle on my Alsation's World site in the Bio section,
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Gallery/7368

LaSalle sent a lot of stuff to Kenner and I think some people with the Red Cross. Anyway, I'm sure you know all about it.

Hope you don't lose to much in the floods, even tho' I don't like you today Jay. :P
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Postby Antony » Fri 23 Sep, 2005 7:48 pm

Just got back.

Sorry for a bit behind, and I will try to answer as many posts as possible. And I will try to answer them in order.

JayGarcia (in post ID [sdp=63845]63845[/sdp]) wrote:
Mr. Jay Garcia, why are you so annoyed with being mentioned in a thread?
Simply because I believe it to be ludicrous and two-faced to be singled out in a Katrina thread where my <cough> safety was such a big concern and at the same time, Antony took the opportunity to exploit a past incident which was satisfied amicably, at least from point of view it was.
You, Mr Jay Garcia just so ashamed to hear what you've done to SillyDog701. I've mentioned a number of times before, it was necessary.

JayGarcia (in post ID [sdp=63845]63845[/sdp]) wrote:Tell, us .. Does Antony snore? ;-)
Tell us, does Mr Jay Garcia take wrong medicine?

JayGarcia (in post ID [sdp=63848]63848[/sdp]) wrote:Tell us what YOUR take is on including the reference to the past incidents, etc. There just wasn't any plausible reason for it.
Just some proper reference. Why are you so afraid of reading so?

JayGarcia (in post ID [sdp=63855]63855[/sdp]) wrote:Hmmm, so you think that Antony had every right to be concerned about my welfare AND slam me in the same breath ... Ok, thanks for your opinion.
Slamming you?
My gosh!
Why would I "slam" SillyDog701's good friend, Mr Jay Garcia?

I kindly remind everybody who wish to support hurricane victims to go through proper channel. Even FBI also tells people about proper channel to donate:
Senior FBI and Justice Department officials warned Americans who want to donate money to the relief effort to be cautious to avoid fraudulent charities, including those that pretend to be major organisations like the Red Cross.
"Just like these natural disasters bring out the best in people, they also bring out some of the worst elements of the criminal element out there who are willing to take advantage of those who are willing to give and those who so desperately need the relief," said Chris Swecker, chief of the FBI's criminal investigative division.

Why's someone got so offended about my kindly words to general? Figure it out!

JayGarcia (in post ID [sdp=63859]63859[/sdp]) wrote:What I would have done under similar circumstances would be:

"A typhoon hit Melbourne today and we're very concerned about the welfare of Antony Shen, the main driving force behind SillyDog701 Support Forum. We wish Antony the best".

And THAT my friend would be all that's necessary. Would it have been the right thing to do to add after that:

"Oh and by the way, Antony was just released from jail after serving 10 years for manslaughter". I suppose you won't see my point and that is WHY bring that up as to how does that relate to a concern for his welfare? <sigh>
Anyone see the different?

I briefly mentioned our good friend Mr Jay Garcia with factual statement. And Mr Jay Garcia's example is to slam me.

(more to come later, coffee first)
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Postby Antony » Fri 23 Sep, 2005 10:30 pm

JayGarcia (in post ID [sdp=63862]63862[/sdp]) wrote:Man o man, are you grossly mis-informed. Me? Steal users? My UFAQ enjoys an average of 70,000+ hits on a daily basis and today a little over 3,000 registered users. Why should anyone need to steal users, including Antony? I don't see any reason whatsoever for him OR me to need to steal users. That is completely absurd.
hmm, now you start the cybersquatting case.

JayGarcia (in post ID [sdp=63862]63862[/sdp]) wrote:And "word replacing" ?? I suppose you're referencing the "censor" thing. Can you read and comprehend that I didn't do any such thing.
The word censoring episode was conducted in UFAQ.org as an insult to SillyDog701. Today, no apologies from UFAQ.org has been offered, from anyone on behalf of UFAQ.org.

JayGarcia (in post ID [sdp=63870]63870[/sdp]) wrote:You'll also notice that I don't make screenshots of posts here and use them on the UFAQ for ANY reason whatsoever, I run a clean and "to the point" support forum. IMHO, it's rather juvenile to consistently take screenshots of other's fora to use in such a manner as on this forum.
SillyDog701 is not interested in concealing evidences, unlike some other forums, deleting posts and removing memberships based on certain people's temper.

JayGarcia (in post ID [sdp=63874]63874[/sdp]) wrote:Please understand that I do NOT snoop other people's servers and post personal data and such. We're far above doing things like that.
Interesting, you just did.

JayGarcia (in post ID [sdp=63877]63877[/sdp]) wrote:What I mentioned was not an accusation but rather just a statement of ethics which had nothing to do with your visit earlier this evening.
Wow! Mr Jay Garcia has ethics, but why did you unethically attack SillyDog701?

JayGarcia (in post ID [sdp=63884]63884[/sdp]) wrote:You're missing the point. Antony REGISTERED the domain UFAQ.NET but was not re-directed until I found out and mentioned it and when I asked, he failed to reply. THEN he redirected it claiming all the bunk about protecting the UFAQ. Man if you believe that line I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you.

It was then that I registered all of the domains AND redirected to UFAQ.ORG in order to get his attention. The rest is history ..... Dems da facts.
Liar!
Antony has explained why UFAQ.net was registered. You simply failed to read.
You did not contact me before I discovered you cybersquatted SillyDog701. Also, nice story, however before it was redirected to UFAQ.org as a courtesy, free of charge, and without Mr Jay Garcia's insulting paragraph, it simply being pointed to blank pages, not to any content of SillyDog701.
Unlike our good friend Mr Jay Garcia, used those three domains to redirect all traffic to UFAQ.org.

Forgot what the insulting paragraph was?
JayGarcia (in footer of SillyDog.info, SillyDog.us, and SillyDog701.org) wrote:The Domains SillyDog.info, SillyDog.us and SillyDog701.org are being re-directed to this site solely for the purpose of protecting Mr. Antony Shen from another person using these domains to redirect to casino sites, porn sites and/or other sites that may damage Mr. Shens's good reputation in the community.
This paragraph was not just sanctimoniously mentioned by Mr. JayGarcia, but also praised by Mr Jay Garcia's good pal, DrDean, who happened to speak same English as Mr Jay Garcia and as impatient as Mr Jay Garcia. ([sdp=56886]reference[/sdp])

Now, you want to talk about "ethics" and "cybersquatting" ??? Ask Antony why HE registered and "cybersquatted" UFAQ.NET .... okie dokie? And he, et al, want to charge ME with "cybersquatting" ?? Get the facts straight.[/quote]

JayGarcia (in page [sdp=63893]63893[/sdp]) wrote:So let's bring up the banning of Antony as an example. At first, yes, Antony was banned on the UFAQ, it was my doing, I did it .. on purpose. It was only meant to last for a day or so but I forgot about it. A while later, don't remember how long it was, Antony decided to make a big deal about here in this forum. I denied it simply because I had forgotten about it. But then I did remember doing it and I told Antony exactly that. So what do you think Antony did to "prove" his point. He enlisted the aid of one of his cohorts to UNETHICALLY access my .htaccess file, send it to Antony after which Antony posted it for all the public to see. For those of you that don't know what a .htaccess file is, it is a file that contains IP addresses that are denied access to my UFAQ and yes, his IP was in the list but later removed. Although the file is accessible, someone has to KNOW that it's there AND how to access it. Antony does, of course. My point is that Antony had no business snooping around my server as it is a code of ethics between ISP's and administrators that you JUST DON'T DO THAT sorta thing.
Ridiculous!
Banning me, and publicly denying it + unwise excuses (with fake examples of saying it was the DENY file) (Hint: you used wrong syntax! Go and study more of networking, including VNC!)

Now, accusing me to access [tt].htaccess[/tt]. [tt].htaccess[/tt] is there? When did [tt].htaccess[/tt] being classified as webserver's secret? Every knowledgeable web administrator knows that.

Someone has to know that? Only the Allies of certain group don't know what [tt].htaccess[/tt]. Shame.

JayGarcia (in post ID [sdp=63896]63896[/sdp]) wrote:I have no idea how or why and I AM the server admin/moderator - chief cook and bottle washer. But ... he accused Chris Ilias of somehow doing it as well as others of doing it even though I explained that it must have been some glitch or gremlins as WE just don't cancel or delete someone's post for no reason.
Ha ha.
I never accused Chris Ilias of deleting my messages in Netscape Secnews. I was questioning you directly in a very clear way.
You deleted two of my important posts for no reasons. And refuse to admit it.
Simply because it was the fact that I asked one small question relating to you (Mr Jay Garcia) and Lorraine, and you were so damn afraid to talk about?

(more later)
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Postby Antony » Sat 24 Sep, 2005 12:27 am

Ron Williams wrote:I am simply to the point of no return regarding my anger toward Antony Shen. After I angered Antony, several related hacks happened on my website. I must warn you Antony, if things like this continue, I will immediately contact the US FBI and hands over all server access logs and contact your host regarding your illegal behavior. It would be horrible if the FBI confiscated your server for investigation (not in my opinion, but for you and your users it would). Considering you have shell access, you could have your server doing this.
Your accusation is false. SillyDog701 and I do not operate in such manner and have no whatsoever interests on you web server. Allow me to remind you, many people, including Mr Jay Garcia, have shell access as well.

Shall SillyDog701 server being down for no reason, Ronnie Williams II is the prime suspect as he has nominated himself. Ronnie Williams II will face severe civil charges shall any false accusations arise from him.
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