Jay Garcia's response after Hurricane Katrina

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Postby JayGarcia » Fri 21 Oct, 2005 11:59 am

but I guess it isn't open yet
Well, let's see, how can I answer this seeing as how my gag order is in place. Lorraine, not so, it's new and you're welcomed.

as there is nothing that I can see that conflicts with Sillydog701
Anything that I want to mention has been gagged, just my sites other than UFAQ.

I think you should do the same Antony, get on with it and stop carrying the grudges
Well, I tried to provide good information and I thought the past was left behind.

I am not taking Jay's side, I am just stating my opinion
Not looking for "sides" and your opinion is valued.

It is empty except for what he will post, I guess.
Have at it, it's brand new.

Like Jay says, not only the thread is dead, but as far as I am concerned I think Sillydog701 is dying.
Yes, the thread has deteriorated but SillyDog will still be around and as far as the support aspect of SillyDog, I have no problem with that, it's a good place for support and especially the archives until you get into these Lounge Forums and that's where the fun stops when you try to relate good info.

I consider him a person who has helped me many times. He also banned me from his newsgroup. But he was decent about it and did warn me.
Yes, I have helped you on many occasions. And yes, I banned you with a prior warning. But the ban was only a surface ban, you COULD have still posted anyway. And that's the extent of it. What has transpired since then is none of my doing. It's also worthy of mentioning that we discussed many things in PRIVATE EMAIL and did not air out the dirty laundry in PUBLIC like some forums do. It's the ADULT thing to do, hash things out privately.

I saw Lakeview, La. on CNN the other night. It is certainly a disaster and seems like nothing has been done there yet
A LOT is being done as there are literally hundreds of trash trucks and heavy equipment cleaning it all up as we speak. The CNN cameras only want you to see what THEY want you to see. And that's one of the purposes of my posts, to relay the actual scenario from a first-hand view of a resident.

Oh, and just for the record, it's not "Lakeview, La" but rather New Orleans - Lakeview Subdivision. Still Orleans Parish.
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Postby Lorraine » Fri 21 Oct, 2005 3:56 pm

I'm not going to quote everything.
Answers will be in order unless I make an error.

I saw your site, but there was only one post at the bottom, yours Jay and I clicked and nothing happened.

I still insist I didn't see anything in conflict with sillydog701.

It seems the past remains with us forever. :)

thank you. I am happy to hear my opinions are valued somewhere.

I realize gatwayno.com/forum is new gateway

Who is the admin of Sillydog 701, anyway?

Yes, we discussed privately but you didn't listen to me. Then I didn't have your addy anymore or you were , I can't think of the word right now, but locked up. Starts with an "S" lol It'll come to me after this is sent.

I think Anderson Cooper did a great job in New Orleans and he was in Lakeview Parish where there were still cars up the walls of buildings and wood and debris all over the place after a month. It looked pretty bad. I don't think they are doing a great job except in the places that make money, like the Vieux Carré. [French Quarter] or perhaps where the wealthy folk like you live.
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Postby JayGarcia » Fri 21 Oct, 2005 4:12 pm

Same here, answers in order.

Try again, there are several dozen views for each photo

It's ME that is conflict, not the site(s).

No comment

Everybody has a right to express an opinion

Yes, it is new and only a few posts so far

Antony's alter ego .. you know, like Sybil

No comment

Yes, they ALL did a great job but you have be there in person to fully grasp the situation. And Lakeview is NOT a "parish". Lakeview is a subdivision in New Orleans, just like Lake Vista (where I live), Gentilly, Lower 9th Ward (where the other levee breach was), so forth and so on. The "Parish" is Orleans Parish who's boundaries are the City Of New Orleans and it's many subdivisions and sections.

Again, you have to be there to see what's happening with the cleanup and reconstruction. Also remember that the French Quarter wasn't flooded for the most part with residents remaining there throughout the storm and the aftermath. Lakeview, on the other hand, was under 6 to 10 feet of water for two weeks and it's only with the last week or so that the cleanup is able to be started. There are 100's of cleanup crews all over Lakeview, seems like on every street.
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Postby Antony » Fri 21 Oct, 2005 7:25 pm

Lorraine wrote:I looked at your site Jay, but I guess it isn't open yet.

I don't see why Antony wouldn't let me put the Url in my sentence, as there is nothing that I can see that conflicts with Sillydog701.

I am not a good friend of Jay Garcia. I consider him a person who has helped me many times. He also banned me from his newsgroup. But he was decent about it and did warn me. I don't know if he is also the other person whom I am very annoyed with, who was instrumental in having me banned, however it is all water under the bridge now. I don't go there anymore.

I think you should do the same Antony, get on with it and stop carrying the grudges so long. I have enjoyed
dropping in here when I feel like it, sometimes I don't for a couple of weeks, but I do return. I surf to other places and there is only so much time I can spend in Sillydog701. Just remember the internet is a huge place.

I am not taking Jay's side, I am just stating my opinion.
Thank you for your concern. It was a difficult decision to apply some censorship, we don't like censorship at all.

The main reasons why that particular link was banned were simply our good friend Mr Jay Garcia decided to 1. his attitude towards SillyDog701 and me in particular, (you can dig out all his past posts)
2. his intention on mentioning his forum
3. his endlessly advertising of his forum, linked or not, or using any other way mentioning his forum.
4. also, when he first mentioned his other forum, he emphasised that I was NOT welcome. Very interesting.

I've always have good words about our good friend, Mr Jay Garcia, and his UFAQ. However when he gets angry which occurs too often, he bans, censors, attacks, and slams me. I do at least allow him to post and argue his points, such things would never happened in newsgroups he controlled OR his forums.

Lorraine wrote:You have also helped me, Antony. One of the reasons I keep coming back to Sillydog701.
You must be fair. That's all.
I am trying to be fair.

I believe I treated his UFAQ.org (completely uncensored) is much better than the way he treated SillyDog701.
Need facts?
links back to SillyDog701 were removed a huge number or times.
I've been banned by him, but I've never banned him.
I always welcome Mr Jay Garcia's visit, but not that other way round. (he keeps mentioning Antony is not welcome.)


Lorraine wrote:It is discrimation and "the thread is about Katrina" and it is a New Orleans url which I wrote which takes you to the forum. It is empty except for what he will post, I guess.
Sorry for inconvenience.
Perhaps, you should see how he discriminate SillyDog701 and me first.
I always know how to return the favour.

Lorraine wrote:I posted a joke in Penguin this morning, it has the acronym B.I.T.C.H. but was removed also.
The word was censored since day one as an offensive word.

Rest assured, our good friend Mr Garcia's UFAQ.org has never censored, and he is always welcome here.

Lorraine wrote:Like Jay says, not only the thread is dead, but as far as I am concerned I think Sillydog701 is dying.
Ha ha, Jay has done a good job on this. Well done.
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Postby Ron Williams » Fri 21 Oct, 2005 7:58 pm

Please edit the footnote about this topic, my name is "Ronnie Williams" or "Ron Williams". Yes, it has an S at the end.
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Postby JayGarcia » Fri 21 Oct, 2005 7:58 pm

I guess you missed my nice comment about SillyDog. But then again you choose only to pick out comments to suit your paranoia. And I stlll stand by my comment below. I send users to the archives many many times and will continue to do so.

Yes, the thread has deteriorated but SillyDog will still be around and as far as the support aspect of SillyDog, I have no problem with that, it's a good place for support and especially the archives
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Postby Antony » Fri 21 Oct, 2005 11:08 pm

Ron Williams wrote:Please edit the footnote about this topic, my name is "Ronnie Williams" or "Ron Williams". Yes, it has an S at the end.
My apologies.
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Postby Ron Williams » Sat 22 Oct, 2005 12:49 am

Antony wrote:
Ron Williams wrote:Please edit the footnote about this topic, my name is "Ronnie Williams" or "Ron Williams". Yes, it has an S at the end.
My apologies.


No problem, I just prefer to have my name spelled correctly. :)
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Postby Antony » Sat 22 Oct, 2005 2:51 am

JayGarcia wrote:I guess you missed my nice comment about SillyDog.
Not exactly. I was replying to Lorrain's post [tt]sdp=65237[/tt], at that time I haven't read your post [tt]sdp=65241[/tt].

JayGarcia wrote:But then again you choose only to pick out comments to suit your paranoia.
That's not true.

JayGarcia wrote:And I stlll stand by my comment below. I send users to the archives many many times and will continue to do so.
I always have good things to say about you and the UFAQ as well as send users to your FAQs many many times, and will continue to do so.

JayGarcia (in [sdp=65246]this post[/sdp]) wrote:It's ME that is conflict, not the site(s).
Well done, finally you realised where the culprit was. Why did you continue to talk about that venue when you [sdp=65042]specified[/sdp] Antony was not welcome? Would you allow me to post a link in your forum (then endlessly discuss that venue) after specifying that Jay Garcia is not welcome?
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Postby JayGarcia » Sat 22 Oct, 2005 7:47 am

Would you allow me to post a link in your forum (then endlessly discuss that venue) after specifying that Jay Garcia is not welcome?
Yes, of course. However, if the situation were reversed as you mentioned, if you had posted on my UFAQ that I was not welcomed, I would have taken the issue to private email or other private venue to discuss the reasons and NOT air it out in public. Then and ONLY then if the issue wasn't resolved I would have required that the postings cease. In all the years that the UFAQ has been in operation, nobody has EVER posted or attempted to post an unfavorable link. There has NEVER been a fight break out in public and only 2 users have been banned, you and one other. And the other user was banned for obscene language AFTER he was warned. You are not welcome for a specific reason. You want it aired out in public or private email? If you opt to publicize it and NOT via email then I won't participate to start another mega thread. And IF we discuss it via email I will require a promise on your word to NOT post ANY of the messages in public as you so often like to do. Private means PRIVATE !! Your choice, go for it.
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