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by **djv1** » Sun 18 Apr, 2004 12:04 am

There is a scam out that one of my friends recently discovered the hard way, when you download certain songs on Kazza or Grokster, you get nailed with a $300 dollar long distance charge on you phone bill, of course this only apply's to people using modem's but beware so you don't become the next victim :!:

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by **profman** » Sun 18 Apr, 2004 5:11 pm

djv1 wrote:There is a scam out that one of my friends recently discovered the hard way, when you download certain songs on Kazza or Grokster, you get nailed with a $300 dollar long distance charge on you phone bill, of course this only apply's to people using modem's but beware so you don't become the next victim

Some info from a brief Google search for you to chew on:

The Scream! Discussion Forum

The characterists of the most recent diallers are

1. They seldom come from UK websites.
2. They often install without a Eula using activeX or the byte verify trojan exploiting MS Java VM
3. If there is a Eula clicking 'No install' will result in a cascade of pop-ups which can only be deleted safely by clicking the upper right X. They sometimes install anyway.
4. Sometimes porn popups will download them if you miscue into the popup itself.
5. The files are small, encrypted and they change names very often. This makes the job of the Spyware programs almost impossible and they are usually up to 6 months behind.
6. Many silence the modem so you do not know they are dialling.
7. It is not usual to find a desktop icon so you do not know they are there unless you look for them.
8. They do not appear on 'add or remove programmes' and they always reinstall if you find and delete the dialler file only. You must search the registry and delete all you find there to get rid.
9. Most use and change freqently the 0909 numbers but sometimes international numbers.

What The Entertainment Industry Doesn't Want You To Know

If you make a copy of an audio CD or movie DVD which you own, will the FBI come knocking on your door? Probably not. What about Napster and Kazza? Yes, most likely! If you are downloading music and video for free from other people on one of these networks, I strongly suggest you quit doing it. When thousands of people make copies of music for free, this goes beyond "fair use."

Virus and worms, such as Benjamin and Fizzer and VCatch and Surnova-D and Gool (the list goes on) take over your PC through music file sharing systems such as Kazza. Some of these worms take over your modem, dial long distance phone numbers, browse kiddie porn websites, or pop up advertising banners in your face every few seconds until your computer is taken over entirely by spammers, hackers, thieves, and criminals. You could be talking to your phone company to explain long distance charges or the feds to explain why a worm on your computer was surfing for pornography using your account. It's not worth it. Kazza's day has come and gone. Give it up. Kick the habit and just buy the CD. It will save you some embarrassing phone calls and a knock on the door at 4am when they come to drag you away.

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by **Mandrake** » Sun 18 Apr, 2004 11:51 pm

If you responsibly use a spyware-free file sharing client, for downloading legal content, you won't have any trouble. Using common sense as to what you download solves all those problems too.

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by **johnd** » Mon 19 Apr, 2004 12:22 pm

so, is it kazza causing the phone bill or is it really a pop up causing it, profman? What are the chances of getting hit by that scam??

johnd

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by **wolverine** » Sun 25 Apr, 2004 9:17 am

I would not bother with kaaza for the sole reason of the enormous amount of exposure to worms.

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by **jksteinhauer** » Sun 25 Apr, 2004 1:12 pm

I had been using an older version of KazaaLite (oldsoftware.com). Napster is now legal; you have to register and are only charged if you actually burn anything.

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by **profman** » Sun 25 Apr, 2004 3:37 pm

I really can not say much about Kazaa, since I would not even get close to it.

I had, earlier, just done a Google search for "phone scam" and "kazaa." Thats what you should do (and more searches) to investigate this problem.

I speculate that the problem is not Kazaa itself. The problem appears to be in files bundled, at certain websites, with Kazaa or with files shared through Kazaa.

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by **djv1** » Sun 25 Apr, 2004 6:11 pm

Kazza is quite horrible for viruses, so is grokster (www.grokstrer.com) I now use Morpheus and WinMX and Kazza-Lite, WAY LESS VIRUSES!!

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by **keith** » Sun 25 Apr, 2004 10:16 pm

I have used kazza for 2 years and havn't got a virus yet.
And i hear that that scam might not be caused by Kazza. I heard it has to do with an africain popup, since 2 of my neighbors got the same thing.

keith.

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by **Antony** » Sun 25 Apr, 2004 10:22 pm

Besides getting virus or worms or whatever from Kazza or any similar P2P applications.

Don't leech.

Getting unauthorised/unlicensed copy of software, games, music, movie or whatever is not legal.

http://sillydog.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5238

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by **keith** » Sun 25 Apr, 2004 10:26 pm

sorry antony, i don't understand what you mean.

keith

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by **djv1** » Mon 26 Apr, 2004 11:08 am

What does

Antony wrote: Don't Leech

mean?

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by **DJGM** » Mon 26 Apr, 2004 12:10 pm

In other words . . . don't use P2P networks to steal stuff . . .

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by **djv1** » Mon 26 Apr, 2004 1:48 pm

One thing with Kazza is it it is all sharing, we borrow it from them and they can borrow somethingof ours if they like.

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by **jksteinhauer** » Mon 26 Apr, 2004 6:54 pm

Napster's legal now. Charges a fee. www.napster.com

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