SillyDog701 • Linux help, please!

My Browser Reference Chart · by **hartlandcat** » Mon 28 Apr, 2003 4:36 am

So, has hartlandcat finally sorted out the Linux installation that he's been talking about on MozillaZine since January?

Short answer: No he hasn't.

Long answer: No he hasn't because he got ripped off my MSL Computers and now needs to make some angry phonecalls this morning to demand a full refund.

Anyway, I would've posted this on MozillaZine, but the forums there are still down, so I'll ask here for now.

I intend to get SuSE. I've seen that the latest version of SuSE is 8.2, but the latest versions of Red Hat and Mandrake are 9.x. Is SuSE technologically behind the other Big 2 distributions?

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by **Mandrake** » Mon 28 Apr, 2003 1:33 pm

Actually, Mandrake is at 9.1 now, I believe - this update includes partial NTFS support. From the limited experience I've had with SuSE 8.x, it appears to be just as up to date as the other two. There were more SuSE incrimental updates than redhat, though (Redhat went from 7.3 to 8.0 to 9.0 - SuSE from 7.4 to 8.0 to 8.1 to 8.2).

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My Browser Reference Chart · by **hartlandcat** » Tue 29 Apr, 2003 3:40 am

Thanks! What's NTFS Support?

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by **DJGM** » Tue 29 Apr, 2003 5:34 am

AFAIK the NTFS support is to enable resizing of NTFS formatted partitions,
containing installations of NT based versions of MS Windows (NT/2000/xp).

Basically, all current Linux distros will mount your Windows drives/partitions
and will enable read/write access to FAT32 drives/partitions, and read only,
access to NTFS drives/partitions, from within your Linux system of choice.

The version numbers of each Linux distro (Mandrake 9.1, SuSE 8.2 . . . )
are little more than marketing devices. The true version number for each
distro, is the version of the Linux kernel it contains. In SuSE 8.1, which is
my current distro, the Linux kernel version is 2.4.19. Essentially, if you
strip out all customisations each individual commercial Linux distributor
makes to each individual distro, you'll end up with nearly bare bones
distros of Linux, that all look and work more less the same.

All current Linux distros will most likely contain KDE v3.1 and GNOME v2.2.
These are both graphical desktop environments you get to choose from at
startup when you login to most versions of Linux. SuSE and Mandrake
distros favour KDE as the default desktop environment in their distros,
whereas RedHat Linux favours GNOME. IMO, the most Windows like
and easiest to use of these desktop environment is KDE.

For ease of installation, and use, I recommend you go for SuSE Linux.

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My Browser Reference Chart · by **hartlandcat** » Tue 29 Apr, 2003 6:23 am

Thanks! I was planning on going for SuSE --- I was just making sure it wasn't technically obsolete! ^_^

So... I can install both GNOME and KDE together? Cool! I'd always assumed it was a one or the other case. Now... lets say I make a text document with a word processor on KDE. Next time I start Linux, I choose GNOME. Would I be able to access that text document via a word processor in GNOME? Also I was wondering if it's possible to use Konqueror as my web browser via GNOME.

Thanks for your help! ^_^

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by **Mandrake** » Tue 29 Apr, 2003 8:00 am

I also tried Lycoris a little while back, it had KDE with it - very easy to use, although I still prefer Redhat or similar.

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My Browser Reference Chart · by **hartlandcat** » Tue 29 Apr, 2003 8:03 am

Hmmmm... so, are the "Big 3 Distros" (Red Hat, SuSE and Mandrake) generally the easiest to use and best to go for? Or does anyone know of a better one? Also... I suppose it's also what I can easily get hold of---I know exactly where I can get the big 3.

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by **Mandrake** » Tue 29 Apr, 2003 9:03 am

More correctly is the "Big two" ... Redhat and Mandrake control most of the Linux market, and Redhat is the biggest Linux vendor (Redhat is a multi billion dollar company)

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My Browser Reference Chart · by **hartlandcat** » Tue 29 Apr, 2003 9:07 am

In PC World, all they sell is Red Hat and SuSE ---I don't think Mandrake has such a high market in the UK.

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by **Mandrake** » Tue 29 Apr, 2003 9:19 am

Ah, SuSE is very popular in Europe - Redhat and Mandrake are much more popular over here, than SuSE is.

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My Browser Reference Chart · by **hartlandcat** » Tue 29 Apr, 2003 9:21 am

Yeah ---SuSE is German-based, right? Oh, btw, what does "SuSE" actually mean/stand for?

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by **ThndrBrd** » Tue 15 Jul, 2003 12:44 am

New here..but an old Linux hand....started with Debian 1.3...have tried all the big ones..ie Mandrake..Debian...Suse...Redhat...IMHO...for ease of install and use Redhat is the pick....internet setup is pointn click....using Redhat 7.1 at the mom but have 8.0 and 9.0....incidentally this machine is a P100 with 64 Mb ram and rockets around the net.....courtesy of Netscape 4.79....makes you wonder why anyone would waste good money on Micros**t... :roll:

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by **DJGM** » Tue 15 Jul, 2003 1:01 am

hartlandcat wrote:Yeah ---SuSE is German-based, right? Oh, btw,
what does "SuSE" actually mean/stand for?

SuSE is a German acronym and stands for Software und System
Entwicklung, in English, that's software and system development.

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by **Edward** » Tue 15 Jul, 2003 6:31 am

I looked at Red Hat, but ultimately went with SuSE.

Red Hat (as of 9) does not support the network card I use (Linksys Network Everywhere NC100, there was a reference that a "Tulip" driver had to be downloaded independently for the card to work), and there was also an indication that Creative's Ensoniq AudioPCI card (version 7), did not work with RH.

I have no idea what version my AudioPCI card is, but the SuSE web site said the AudioPCI is supported, as well as all the other cards in use, and sure enough, everything works perfectly.

Regretfully, I cannot say the same about running Netscape on Linux though... :mad:

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by **Mandrake** » Tue 15 Jul, 2003 7:19 am

RH9 detected all my hardware, made it even easier than Windows XP! In Windows XP I had to manually manually install drivers for my Voodoo card, in Linux I didn't need to do anything.

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