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McCarthyism is Alive and Well in the USA

Postby Hatewa » Sat 13 Mar, 2004 12:19 pm

If you have listened to, or watched Howard Stern’s televised radio show, you might think, (as millions do), that he is a chauvinistic worm of a man, a misogynist at heart, an exploiter of women—a perverted man who mocks and exploits the physically and mentally handicapped; overall, a shallow, scummy and despicable excuse for a human being.
I must admit that I do feel that way about him sometimes.
However, after many years on the road, many different jobs, and over twenty years on the stage, I have encountered all sorts of people and human situations, and find there is very little human behavior, good or bad, that I cannot recognize or identify with, at some level.
I often watch or listen to people whom I despise or find contemptible, if only to see what the enemy is doing.
But, Howard also interests me, psychologically, (a phenomena of sorts). He is stuck at an eighth grade level—a sometimes disgusting, albeit fascinating example of arrested development.
So, I admit, I will, (occasionally), listen to, or watch his show, at least until he says or does something positively disgusting, i.e. has his guests get into a farting contest, sets up a sexual encounter between a drunken midget who looks like he doesn’t take baths and a squeaky clean calendar girl, or he starts asking his female guests about their periods, or how many times they have engaged in anal sex, and with whom.
Not that I have anything against most of those things. It’s just that when Howard sets up the situations, and asks the questions, his motives are so patently shallow, it seems slimy and perverted.
What I am getting at here is this. If I don’t like Howard Stern, it is my right to turn off the dial. It is not, and should not be the Government’s job to turn it off for me.
Recently the religious right, with full approval by George Bush, has unleashed the FCC, (headed by the son of our Secretary of State), on Howard Stern and other radio personalities whom they view as obscene and not conforming to their standards of conduct. George Bush recently stated that we, (meaning he and his Christian right friends), are engaged in a “cultural warâ€
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Postby Ramona » Sat 13 Mar, 2004 4:39 pm

Who is John Galt?

Can you hear me applauding Hatewa?

Ramona :mrgreen:
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Postby Hatewa » Sat 13 Mar, 2004 5:59 pm

Oh yes Ramona, I do.
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Postby Lorraine » Sun 14 Mar, 2004 1:17 am

Very well written Hatewa, you hit the nail on the head !
You sure do give it to them, and the way it is.

As you know, I am not an American.
But where I live, I am just a second class citizen in Canada.
If I want anything from the Provincial government, or any company for that matter in English, I have to request it. Even the tax bills.
I was born in Montreal. Don't get me started on language issues. Enough said!

Howard Stern was on the air in Montreal a few years ago. Of course there was a huge promotion campaign before he went on the air.
I listened to the programme once and I wasn't impressed. He really is foul mouthed. I'm not a prude either :)

He didn't last very long, just a few months if I remember right, he was cancelled because of the vulgar contents.

You hear the same thing about TV, Games, Computers and every other man made item, but the thing that people don't seem to comprehend is, there is usually a plug, a knob or something to turn it off.
If not, throw it out if it offends you.

You are right in saying that Americans are losing their Freedom of Speech as well as other freedoms.
In Canada, it seems to be the growing trend.
We the people have elected and, put some bad politicians in power as well as out of power in Canada. They are just like pigs at the trough!
The world has gone to hell ! :grin_dg:
Kerry seems to look alright and, if the Republicans are against him, he must be! :)
-Lorraine
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Postby Wellander » Sun 14 Mar, 2004 2:26 am

Hi,
Who is this person.
I licve in the US and I have never heared of this person.
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Postby Hatewa » Sun 14 Mar, 2004 2:48 am

Wellander wrote:Hi,
Who is this person.
I licve in the US and I have never heared of this person.


You mean, John Galt?
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Postby Wellander » Sun 14 Mar, 2004 2:52 am

Hi,
Oh,
:oops: :o
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Re: McCarthyism is Alive and Well in the USA

Postby brett » Sun 14 Mar, 2004 5:34 pm

Hatewa wrote:... the Republicans and the religious right are couching a major attack on freedom of speech as an attack on indecency.


Oh, hogwash! Why would Dubya "Daft as a Brush" Bush want to inhibit freedom of speech?

Do you not think that he *wants* the press to remind the elecorate of the the abject failure of the US's foray into Afghanistan?

For them to be reminded of the fact that he and bLIAR (oops ... Blair) lied about the threat Iraq posed to the West (yeah, where are those WMD?)? And of the fact that the UN wepons inspectors were actually right? As were the millions who protested throughout the world against the atrocity which Bush and his henchmen were proposing?

And to remind 'em of the fact that his actions thus far have achieved NOTHING (no, neither the US nor the UK is now a safer place to be) except for the loss of >10,000 civilian lives.

Similarly, he'd also welcome press speculation as to whether, if WMD were not the true motivation for the action against Iraq, oil was (I, of course, am sure that that was not the case and that the US administration has never even considered the possibilty that their ever worsening relations with the Islamic nations might result in another 1973-style, economy-crippling OPEC (whose members happen to be responsible for ~40% of global oil production and hold ~60% of global oil reserves) embargo and that, therefore, oil can in no way have been a motivating factor. It is, therefore, also irrelevant that the US's dependence on imported oil has increased by ~20% over the last 20 years, that imports now account for ~50% of US consumption, that ~50% of those imports are obtained from OPEC members, that Iraq has ~10% of global reserves and that replacing Saddam with a US-friendly stooge would give access to ~2.5 million barrels per day (a figure which could easily be increased twofold) of cheap non-OPEC oil into which Dubya "Da Oilman" could dip his hands prior to raising to two black fingers to the signatories to the Kyoto Protocol whilst continuing with a criminal programme of pollution)?

So, no, I do not believe for one single minute that Bush would have any interest whatsoever is stifling free speech.

Your assertions, Sir, are frankly ridiculous!
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Re: McCarthyism is Alive and Well in the USA

Postby Hatewa » Sun 14 Mar, 2004 7:28 pm

brett wrote:So, no, I do not believe for one single minute that Bush would have any interest whatsoever is stifling free speech.

Your assertions, Sir, are frankly ridiculous!


Try a hundred times harder, Brett, and there might be a slim possibility that you will see the forest through the trees, but I doubt it.
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Postby Lorraine » Tue 16 Mar, 2004 1:09 am

Brett wrote

For them to be reminded of the fact that he and bLIAR (oops ... Blair) lied about the threat Iraq posed to the West (yeah, where are those WMD?)? And of the fact that the UN wepons inspectors were actually right? As were the millions who protested throughout the world against the atrocity which Bush and his henchmen were proposing?


Actually a very good paragraph as well as truthful one, Brett.
You contradict yourself continually in your ranting.
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Re: McCarthyism is Alive and Well in the USA

Postby Hatewa » Tue 16 Mar, 2004 1:16 am

brett wrote:So, no, I do not believe for one single minute that Bush would have any interest whatsoever is stifling free speech.

Your assertions, Sir, are frankly ridiculous!


Sorry Bretter. . . I mean Brit,. . er Brett,
had had a large dinner that didn't agree, and spoiled my sense of humor. :lol: :lol:

You saw the forest. I was up a tree.
Sorry bout that mate,
Next time I'll eat lighter, and let my "slow moon" give it a second look.
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Postby brett » Tue 16 Mar, 2004 1:34 pm

You contradict yourself continually in your ranting.


Rant? Me? I have never ranted in my life! Ranting is, to me, an alien concept! In fact, I wouldn't know how to rant even if I wanted to! Which I do not! So there :P

OK. I'm missing something. I cannot see any contradictions. You're gonna have to point 'em out for me, Lorraine.

Sorry Bretter.


That's quite alright, H.
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Postby wolverine » Sat 17 Apr, 2004 7:03 pm

This stuff is a reaction to that mess during the superbowl.
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Postby Edward » Sun 18 Apr, 2004 2:37 pm

Not just on radio...

The over-the-air broadcast television networks are really pushing the envelope when it comes to the boundaries of decency.
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Postby Lorraine » Sun 18 Apr, 2004 2:43 pm

Oh, hogwash! Why would Dubya "Daft as a Brush" Bush want to inhibit freedom of speech?

Do you not think that he *wants* the press to remind the elecorate of the the abject failure of the US's foray into Afghanistan?

that replacing Saddam with a US-friendly stooge would give access to ~2.5 million barrels per day (a figure which could easily be increased twofold) of cheap non-OPEC oil into which Dubya "Da Oilman" could dip his hands prior to raising to two black fingers to the signatories to the Kyoto Protocol whilst continuing with a criminal programme of pollution)?



Brett:
Don't you know that it was the U.S. that put Saddam in power in the first place?
Did you know that Iraq wasn't responsible for the WTC tragedy in N.Y.?
Did you know that 19 Saudi Arabians were responsible for flying those planes into the WTC, Pentagon and the Field in PA.?
Do you realize that they didn't go and bomb Saudi Arabia?
Did you know that the Bush family have ties with the oil industry in Saudi Arabia? With Bin Laden's family? Of course it is a very large family. Bin Laden had 45 brothers & half brothers and sisters, I believe.
I myself, and millions of people had probably never heard of Bin Laden even after the tragedy.
Of course I am not up to date on American Politics either but I know they bombed the hell out of Afghanistan just to
find Bin Laden?? They just wanted to get a foothold in there. Then they decided he was in IRAQ.... Well it doesn't seem like he is there either. There sure is a lot of oil in Iraq, and didn't Saddam try to assassinate dubya's daddy?

Another 11 soldiers died today, thats 99 since the beginning of April.
We never see the bodies coming back home anymore.
Not a photo op anymore.
Do you really think that he won't try to suppress Freedom of Speech?
My oh my, what some will do to be re-elected !

I agree with most of what you stated, however we will never know the truth, as Dubya speaks out both sides of his mouth.
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