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by **Mandrake** » Wed 18 Jun, 2003 5:19 am

I'm sure we are beyond posting links, everyone knows were to get Mozilla 1.4 RC2. It is unclear whether 1.4 RC3 will be happenning, or if it will go straight to a 1.4 release at this stage.

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by **orizng** » Wed 18 Jun, 2003 7:55 am

I wonder whether could we expect Netscape's next version which supposed to be based on Moz 1.4??

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by **DJGM** » Wed 18 Jun, 2003 8:22 am

I think now would be a good time for Netscape to release 7.1PR1.

Why, you ask? Well, since Netscape 7.0 PR1 was built upon Mozilla 1.0RC2, now that Mozilla 1.4RC2 is
out, I think that Netscape should make available a preview release of the upcoming N7.1. If anything,
it might just silence some of those who've prematurely written off Netscape as dead and buried since
the recent litigation settlement between AOLTW + Microsoft, and prove that Netscape is still around.

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by **Mandrake** » Wed 18 Jun, 2003 8:48 am

I personally, do not think, there will be any PRs for Netscape 7.1 . . . Remembering that Mozilla 1.4 is going to be REALLY stable, Netscape probarbly wants the extra testing done on Moz 1.4 RCs, rather than a Netscape version. Then once 1.4 is nice and stable (Even now I'm finding it very very stable) Netscape 7.1 can be released.

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by **DJGM** » Wed 18 Jun, 2003 9:13 am

Another quick (speculative) theory regarding the upcoming release of Netscape 7.1 . . .

Since the Mozilla Organization discontinued development of the Mozilla Application Suite
for users of the "classic" versions of Mac OS (8.x - 9.x) and as Netscape 7.1 will be built
upon Mozilla 1.4, I don't think there will be a release of Netscape 7.1 for Mac users
that are still using "classic" Mac OS, and have not yet upgraded to Mac OS X.

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by **orizng** » Thu 19 Jun, 2003 6:24 am

According to www.mozillaquest.com, the biggest problem for NS developer when prepareing Mozilla to NS is that Mozilla is actually a buggy product to any extend, most time netscape developer is to fix them, Mozilla.org will care less about these bugs because Mozilla is not a end-user product, but NS is not the same. So NS is often much later than Mozilla with same core.

What I am afriad is from the 750 Million Dollars Microsoft gave to AOL.

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by **DJGM** » Thu 19 Jun, 2003 7:05 am

If there's one thing that I've learned over the last 18 months or so, is not to trust any of the
unmitigated lies, FUD and total BS that gets spewed out of that pathetic MozillaQuest site.

MozillaQuest is a FUD filled anti-Mozilla website containing extremely poorly written articles,
filled with misleading information, that's mostly cut and pasted from previous articles. The
author of this most disreputable site, one Mike Angelo, has earned quite a large notoriety
amongst members the Mozilla community for the anti-Mozilla lies and FUD he spews. So
much so, he's often referred to as "mangelo" or "man jello". If Mozilla was a commercial
software product , made by a multi national computer software corporation, as opposed
to being a community driven open source project, some of mangelo's articles would be
considered libellous, and he would probably face a cease and desist order and possibly
also expensive litigation. Do not trust mangelo. Do not trust MozillaQuest.

For more info, and rebuttals against mangelo, go to http://mozillaquest.jeeran.com/ . . .

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by **Mandrake** » Thu 19 Jun, 2003 8:14 am

I find it hilarious that this guy thinks Mozilla is unstable! Is he still running M15 or something? :lol:

So.. do ya reckon this guy or Paula Festa is worse? Both are complete ignorant idiots IMO!

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by **orizng** » Thu 19 Jun, 2003 9:20 am

ooops.. I had thought this site was a supporter to Mozilla.org, Just in a strange way, :oops:

am I wrong?, I definitely know many of Mozilla's shortcut were exaggerated there, but every coin has two side, it still contain some truth to some extend. Its existence could be a force to make Mozilla better.

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by **DJGM** » Thu 19 Jun, 2003 9:59 am

Back in the days when Mozilla Seamonkey was still quite buggy and relatively unstable, around
milestones 0.6 - 0.8, mangelo pointed out that Mozilla was worthy enough to become a default
primary browser. The truth it, although Mozilla was gradually becoming more stable and a little
less buggy with each subsequent milestone, at that time, it was far from ready for primetime.

At around milestone 0.9, when Mozilla had really started to become a good and stable browser
suite, mangelo started to turn the tables. In his review for Mozilla 1.0 Release Candidate 3, he
misleadingly said, "there are still no compelling reasons to switch to AOL-Netscape's Mozilla
browser suite from Microsoft's Internet Explorer." In one of his most misleading articles to
date, mangelo has the gall to say that Mozilla and Netscape have a worse security record
than IE! It was at this point, not only did people in the Mozilla community question his
sanity (or lack thereof) but also wondered which illegal substances he'd been smoking!

Go here for more information about that article, and some rebuttals against it . . .

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