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by **Wanness** » Sun 13 Jul, 2003 11:08 am

I am hoping to get some input from the group at large. Ever since I started working with computers I used Netscape, the last version that I used 4.79, was a couple of years ago. I started having problems with error messages on various web sites, I decided to download Nescape 6.1, didn't like it at all, and deleted it. With the advent of the new computers that I am using, all loaded with WinXp Pro, I am wondering if I would have any problems utilizing 4.79 with my current OS? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, ill

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)

by **DJGM** » Sun 13 Jul, 2003 12:15 pm

Judging by your UA string, your current OS is Windows XP.

IMO, if you want to see websites rendered corectly in a Netscape browser, without any
error messages, the best thing to do is to scrap the now obsolete v4.79, and use the
recently released Netscape 7.1 instead. Whereas NS6.x was a big disappointment,
for most people, the newer NS7.x is definitely a vast improvement.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax)

by **Fulvio** » Sun 13 Jul, 2003 12:28 pm

Wanness wrote:I am hoping to get some input from the group at large. Ever since I started working with computers I used Netscape, the last version that I used 4.79, was a couple of years ago. I started having problems with error messages on various web sites, I decided to download Nescape 6.1, didn't like it at all, and deleted it. With the advent of the new computers that I am using, all loaded with WinXp Pro, I am wondering if I would have any problems utilizing 4.79 with my current OS? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, ill

I have to add my caveat. I have yet to see a site which did not do well with 4.79, although several sites encourage or even bug me to get "NS6.x". There has been such an upheaval since the barely passable 6.1 came out that many sites have not bothered keeping up with the number. I have yet to be able to access some Yahoo sites, especially music. So, I am strongly encourage that you hang on 4.79. It works as well as it can in WinXP.
I am guaranteeing you that there will be some problems with 7.1, partly on account of its excellent Popup blocker, and mostly because some sites, constructed with software which creates partly non-compliant pages are not rendered as well.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax)

by **Wanness** » Thu 17 Jul, 2003 7:17 pm

I do appreciate the response to my inquiry, one other question, is it feasible, or even possible to uninstall IE? Thanks, Bill

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)

by **profman** » Thu 17 Jul, 2003 8:40 pm

Wanness : Keep both Netscape 4.7X and Netscape 7.xx on the same system. They are completely independent programs kept in separate directories and may even be run simultaneously. The installation of 7.xx should pick up all bookmarks and E-mails from the NS 4.7x installation without erasing anything.

This way you may run whichever version (7.xx or 4.7x) that you prefer until you are convinced which is better for you. Right now, I prefer Mozilla 1.4 or Netscape 7.02 until some bugs in NS 7.1 are worked out.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

by **Fulvio** » Fri 18 Jul, 2003 12:34 pm

Wanness wrote:I do appreciate the response to my inquiry, one other question, is it feasible, or even possible to uninstall IE? Thanks, Bill

There is no one more qualified than DJGM. It, surely, can be done, but you have to know what you are doing.

And, I am in nearly total agreement with profman. Moz1.4 has the same problems as NS7.1, if you use a sub-WinXP version.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

by **DJGM** » Fri 18 Jul, 2003 1:19 pm

Wanness wrote:I do appreciate the response to my inquiry, one other question,
is it feasible, or even possible to uninstall IE? Thanks, Bill

It depends on the version of Windows you're using. With Windows 95/98/NT/ME, plus Windows 2000
up to Service Pack 1, you can use IERadicator to safely and completely remove Internet Explorer. On
the other hand, with Windows XP (and 2000 SP2+), it's not possible to remove IE. Not yet anyway.

The makers of IERadicator also have an app called 98Lite, which removes a lot of the unwanted
extras (including IE) that arebundled with Windows 98/98SE/ME, and are currently working on
a new version called XP/2000Lite for users of Windows XP and Windows 2000 SP2+. They've
released a beta version for registered users of 98Lite, and the final version is due out soon.

More information in this SD701 forum thread, and also over at LitePC.com . . .

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax)

by **xan** » Fri 18 Jul, 2003 2:50 pm

When I switched to XP I had a lot of problems with Netscape 4.79, at least as far as stability goes. But I noticed that 4.8 seemed to have solved all those problems...

So if you do want to run Netscape 4.x on XP, go with 4.8 it seems to solve the XP compatibility problems.

xan...

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

by **Shark Daddy** » Fri 18 Jul, 2003 4:01 pm

profman wrote:Right now, I prefer Mozilla 1.4 or Netscape 7.02 until some bugs in NS 7.1 are worked out.

What bugs are you referring to?

By the way, there isn't any real need to uninstall IE and you may experience problems as a result of doing so. For example, some sites block out browsers and IE may be needed. Also, you won't get and Microsoft tech support if you use something like 98lite. Your choice...

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030517 Mozilla Firebird/0.6

by **profman** » Fri 18 Jul, 2003 5:28 pm

Shark Daddy: Resources drain is the biggest "bug" with Netscape 7.1 that has really bothered even some experts here at SillyDog. This drain occurs in all OS, although it is most evident in Windows 98. (Even Mozilla 1.4 seems to crash on my Windows 98 system after running for an hour or so.)

I suspect that there are other "bugs" out there in a product that was rushed to market for the primary reason of being able to terminate most of those working on it. The Netscape 7 Newsgroup is still full of reported problems. Its not yet clear if there is anyone left around to "fix" these bugs.

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