SillyDog701

by **zeitgeist** » Sun 25 Jul, 2004 3:59 am

Hi.

I was looking at the netscape website and noticed Communicator 4.8 was released in 2002 - what updates did this bring? Why did Netscape even release an update - they were already dead then?

Comunicator 4.7 was released in '98 wasn't it?

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by **Antony** » Sun 25 Jul, 2004 4:23 am

Yes, Netscape Communicator 4.8 was released in August 2002, just a few days before Netscape 7.0 (Aug 2002)

Netscape Communicator 4.8 was released mainly for the corporate clients, because Netscape has supporting contract with some companies. A maintenance was then due. It has some bug fixes and enhancements. It was carried out by iPlanet.

SillyDog701 is not aware of any major features in version 4.8.

Some quick difference:
Enterprise with Calendaring version (commonly called Professional version) stopped in Communicator 4.7; the addition of Java plug-in support started in Communicator 4.78 (it was built-in Java before that); and enhanced CSS support in 4.79.

Please see Netscape Version Guide.

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by **David Wonn** » Tue 31 Aug, 2004 2:36 am

As far as I can tell, the main difference I see between Netscape Communicator versions 4.79 and 4.8 is their version of Shockwave flash:

NC 4.79 uses SWF 5.0 r41.
NC 4.80 uses SWF 6.0 r29.

Even some "newer" (but not the newest) versions of Netscape / Mozilla / Firefox are still using SWF 5.0.

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)

by **Wellander** » Tue 31 Aug, 2004 12:23 pm

Hi,
You can upgrade the flash your self by downloading a newer version.

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by **Danny_G** » Tue 07 Sep, 2004 4:05 pm

David Wonn wrote:As far as I can tell, the main difference I see between Netscape Communicator versions 4.79 and 4.8 is their version of Shockwave flash:

NC 4.79 uses SWF 5.0 r41.
NC 4.80 uses SWF 6.0 r29.

For NS 4.80 (20020722) Linux version about:plugins says:

Shockwave Flash

File name: /opt/ns4/plugins/libflashplayer.so

Shockwave Flash 4.0 r12

Too old !! :sadr:

But don't matter, I've never use it.

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by **Fulvio** » Thu 16 Sep, 2004 3:52 pm

If you install a newer flash, the plugin .dll will be updated in all similar programs. I had to reinstall 4.8, and it has npswf32.dll v.6.0.29, but copy 7.0.19 from my NS7.2 folder, and pasted in to the 4.8 plugin folder, replacing the old one.
You are not locked in one kind of file, in any way.

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by **Indyrod** » Wed 22 Sep, 2004 10:51 am

I'm getting ready to install Netscape 4.8 over 4.73. Can I just do a normal install over the top of 4.73 as always, or should I be aware of any problems? thanks in advance..

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by **Fulvio** » Wed 22 Sep, 2004 1:38 pm

I am not aware of any problem. But, in view of the vast problem encountered with the post 6.x installation, I would recommend uninstalling the old version first, and then installing the new one. If you don't do anything extra, since some files are left to be used by the new install, 4.8 will be installed in the same location as the 4.73, usings its plugins. The User profile is not touched, and should work fine.

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by **Indyrod** » Wed 22 Sep, 2004 1:52 pm

Fulvio wrote:I am not aware of any problem. But, in view of the vast problem encountered with the post 6.x installation,

I've never installed 6.x, so how would that affect me? thanks

To clarify, I'm posting this from work. The only IE I have at home is IE-4, if that's what you were thinking about.

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by **Indyrod** » Thu 23 Sep, 2004 12:38 pm

Fulvio wrote:I am not aware of any problem. But, in view of the vast problem encountered with the post 6.x installation, I would recommend uninstalling the old version first, and then installing the new one. If you don't do anything extra, since some files are left to be used by the new install, 4.8 will be installed in the same location as the 4.73, usings its plugins. The User profile is not touched, and should work fine.

Please elaborate on the problem you are talking about. "in view of the vast problem encountered with the post 6.x installation". thanks

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by Al » Fri 24 Sep, 2004 12:04 am

Indyrod wrote:
Fulvio wrote:I am not aware of any problem. But, in view of the vast problem encountered with the post 6.x installation, I would recommend uninstalling the old version first, and then installing the new one. If you don't do anything extra, since some files are left to be used by the new install, 4.8 will be installed in the same location as the 4.73, usings its plugins. The User profile is not touched, and should work fine.

Please elaborate on the problem you are talking about. "in view of the vast problem encountered with the post 6.x installation". thanks

He means NS 6.x

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by **Fulvio** » Sat 25 Sep, 2004 2:54 pm

If you never installed anything after NS4.8, there is no reason to to be concerned.
As for the other one, I should have have "problems with post-4.8(NS).
Some of you never went past NS4.8. The vast problems are due to the fact that with NS4.x, it was ok to install on top of the previous version. This is a no-no with any of the newer version. In addition, I never had to think about creating a new profile with NS4.x. This is recommended (by me, at least) to create a new profile for each post-NS4.8 version.

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by **Indyrod** » Tue 28 Sep, 2004 8:31 pm

Just wanted to follow up my initial post by saying I successfully installed 4.8 over my old 4.73 and everything seems to be running ok. One minor scare. After the install and I went to check mail, NS crashed hard with a windows error, when it tried to compress my mail folders. After I revived myself, I opened NS again checked my mail, and it compressed the folders just fine. Not sure what that was all about.

Now I guess I'm wondering what I gained by upgrading to 4.8, so I'll read the version notes and attempt to figure that out. Thanks to those that responded.

For those that wonder why I didn't go on to 7.*, just a matter of personal preference, and not ready for that giant leap. :shock:

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by Al » Tue 28 Sep, 2004 9:42 pm

Why not try Firefox??? It's much much better than NS 4x

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by **goGecko** » Tue 28 Sep, 2004 9:51 pm

Netscape 4.x users are accustomed to an integrated solution including Browsing, Mail, Newsgoups, Web Editing, Address Book, and in some configurations Calendar. Firefox only provides a browser. For Communicator users, switching to Firefox would be about as abrupt of a change as switching back to Internet Explorer. Netscape 7.2 or Mozilla 1.7.3 would be a much easier transition for users of Communicator.

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SillyDog701

Netscape 4.8 2002?

Netscape 4.8 2002?

Not really Comparable

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