SillyDog701

[Indyrod]

When I access a web page that has the windows player embedded (html embed instruction), like with a mp3 file, the browser does not display the page, and if I hit reload, I get an access violation. Is there any plugin I need to keep my browser from blowing up when encountering the "embed player"? I have javascript turned off most of the time with 4.8, because I have better success accessing most all web pages, but the embed instruction causes me a lot of problems.

It's really just one music forum I visit, where the webmaster uses that a lot, but it's still a big hassle. Any help will be appreciated. Incidently, I am using 4.8 because of system constraits, so please no advice to upgrade browser.

thanks in advance...

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.8 [en] (Win95; U)

[Antony]

When I access a web page that has the windows player embedded (html embed instruction), like with a mp3 file, the browser does not display the page, and if I hit reload, I get an access violation. Is there any plugin I need to keep my browser from blowing up when encountering the "embed player"?

I think the main problem is the HTML page coding.
Netscape 4.x supports Netscape-specified HTML for embedding, e.g. [tt]<embed>[/tt]. If the website uses new (standard) HTML coding, e.g. [tt]<object>[/tt], and without the [tt]<embed>[/tt] support for backward support, users of Netscape 4.x might experience some problems. The best way is to contact the webmaster of the web site, and suggest him to add backward support.

Also, make sure you have QuickTime Player (plugin), Real Player and Windows Media Player installed.

If you don't mind showing us a link of the webpage, we can see if that's an issue with the page coding or your settings.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050603 Netscape/8.0.2

[Indyrod]

Here's a link to the web page. It's the second post after mine. Thanks for the help, and I know the webmaster very well. Let me know what you find out.

http://www.projekction.net/phpBB2/viewt ... 09&start=0

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.8 [en] (Win95; U)

[Indyrod]

Here's a link to the web page. It's the second post after mine. Thanks for the help, and I know the webmaster very well. Let me know what you find out.

http://www.projekction.net/phpBB2/viewt ... 09&start=0

To get around the login problem, you can use this link too:

http://www.projekction.net/textonly/thr ... ic_id=2609

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)

[Indyrod]

even better, here is the source code of the page with the embedded player:

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<span class="postbody">What Indyrod really wants is an album that sounds like this:
<br />

<br />
<center><EMBED SRC="http://www.projekction.net/media/LTiA_symph.mp3" AUTOPLAY="FALSE"></EMBED></center>
<br />

<br />

<br />
Darren


EDIT: BBCode used to format HTML, unrelated section removed (too lengthy), Antony 22 Oct 2005

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)

[Indyrod]

Here's a link to the web page. It's the second post after mine. Thanks for the help, and I know the webmaster very well. Let me know what you find out.

http://www.projekction.net/phpBB2/viewt ... 09&start=0

Sorry to keep repeating this, but this original link was restricted to members only of that web site. It is now open just so you Netscape experts can take a look at the problem I am having. I only have a few days until he closes the thread again to members only. Please have a look, and offer up any solutions that might help me. Thanks in advance.

http://www.projekction.net/phpBB2/viewt ... 09&start=0

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)

[Indyrod]

Here's another link using the embed code for video. This also causes my NS 4.8 to abort.

http://www.projekction.net/phpBB2/viewt ... =ktu#39284

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)

[Antony]

I can't connect to either of those links. I will try again later.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/412.7 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/412.5

[Indyrod]

working fine here, please try again.

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)

[Antony]

Now, both work for me.

the audio in first link plays fine in Safari,

This is the code used in first link,

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<EMBED SRC="http://www.projekction.net/media/LTiA_symph.mp3" AUTOPLAY="FALSE"></EMBED>

As for second link (video), it does not work for me in Safari.

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<EMBED SRC="http://www.projekction.net/media/ktu_sines_absinthe.wmv" AUTOPLAY="FALSE"></EMBED>

and

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<EMBED SRC="http://www.projekction.net/media/ktu_sines_optikus.wmv" AUTOPLAY="FALSE"></EMBED>

The question is do you have Windows Media Player installed correctly?

If I remember correctly, [tt]height[/tt] and [tt]width[/tt] are required for [tt]<embed>[/tt] tag.
But this is a bit complicated, as the poster must have the dimension of the video in mind (and add 16 to the height)
e.g. if the video is 300 by 200, the code would be [tt]width=300 height=216[/tt]

Encoding media could be complicated in forum layouts...

One way is to suggest them to simply type the link only. When users want to see it, they can click the link.

Can you check if this page work for your Netscape 4.8?

If so, you can change the above coding to a much more complicated version by using [tt]<object>[/tt] tag.

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<OBJECT ID="MediaPlayer" WIDTH=320 HEIGHT=271
  CLASSID="CLSID:22D6f312-B0F6-11D0-94AB-0080C74C7E95"
   TYPE="application/x-oleobject"
CODEBASE="http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/mplayer/en/nsmp2inf.cab#Version=6,4,7,1112">
  <PARAM name="autoStart" value="False">
  <PARAM name="filename" value="http://www.projekction.net/media/ktu_sines_optikus.wmv">
  <PARAM NAME="ShowControls" VALUE="True">
  <PARAM NAME="ShowStatusBar" VALUE="True">
<EMBED TYPE="application/x-mplayer2" SRC="http://www.projekction.net/media/ktu_sines_optikus.wmv"
NAME="MediaPlayer" WIDTH=320 HEIGHT=271
autostart="false" showcontrols="true" showstatusbar="true"></EMBED>
</OBJECT>

Note: to use [tt]<object>[/tt] for Windows Media files, you will need
[tt]CLASSID="CLSID:22D6f312-B0F6-11D0-94AB-0080C74C7E95"
TYPE="application/x-oleobject"
CODEBASE="http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/mplayer/en/nsmp2inf.cab#Version=6,4,7,1112"[/tt] in attitude of the OBJECT.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/412.7 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/412.5

[Indyrod]

Thanks Antony, I'm passing on your reply to the webmaster. And yes, I have windows media player installed correctly. I play samples from Amazon all the time, and other sites, as well as my own audio and video files.

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)

[Indyrod]

Can you check if this page work for your Netscape 4.8?

Yes, that page DOES work for Netscape 4.8. But for some reason, the embed causes it to abort on the links I furnished you. Do you have any idea why it works, and the embed instruction does not?

thanks again

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.8 [en] (Win95; U)

[Antony]

Can you check if this page work for your Netscape 4.8?

Yes, that page DOES work for Netscape 4.8. But for some reason, the embed causes it to abort on the links I furnished you. Do you have any idea why it works, and the embed instruction does not?

thanks again

I am not expert on Windows Media embedding. (I know more about QuickTime.)
If my understanding is correct, you might want to ask the webadminstrator to carefully embed the media.
That is use [tt]<EMBED ...>[/tt] and surrounded by [tt]<OBJECT ...>[/tt].

OR the problem could due to the Table. Netscape 4.8 does not handle Table that well (compared to later versions).

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/416.11 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/416.12