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Netscape 7.1 with Mozilla 1.7 features?

Postby Don_HH2K » Wed 02 Jun, 2004 7:40 pm

I probably have some whacky time-consuming idea here, but hear me out and tell me if you think it might work or not.

If you go and download the full installer of Netscape, it unzips a bunch of XPI files to a directory in your Temp folder called ns_temp. If someone were to replace the files with XPIs from Mozilla 1.7 before the install process, what would happen? I don't want to test this right now, mainly because of my giant address book, calendar, and mail backup (NOT server-side).
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Postby DJGM » Wed 02 Jun, 2004 8:48 pm

What would happen. I would assume, that due to the new of "under the hood" changes,
plus improvements and bugfixes, to the Mozilla codebase between Netscape 7.1 (based
upon Mozilla 1.4) and the soon to be released Mozilla 1.7, there'd be major breakage!

If I were you, I'd wait and see if a new CCK accompanies Netscape 7.2 . . .
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Postby ChrisI » Thu 03 Jun, 2004 1:21 am

I remember trying the Netscape 7 CCK on the 7.1 full installer (It worked with other 7.0x releases.) The CCK got confused, and reverted back to the built in 7.0 info.

If you replace the XPI's in ns_temp, you'll end up with Mozilla 1.7 in a Netscape folder. The EXE, icons, settings, etc. will say Mozilla.

I'd wait and see if a new CCK accompanies Netscape 7.2

From what I've been told, no CCK for 7.2. "Will be reconsidered for future releases if things go well"
I'd be surprised if there is one.
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Postby Antony » Thu 03 Jun, 2004 2:20 am

If I remember correctly, just about 1 or 2 weeks before the release of NS 7.02 (OR perhaps 7.1), Holger had his own build of Netscape 7.02 (OR 7.1) based on then latest Mozilla instead of Netscape, according his announcement on Netscape secnews.

I did not test his Netscape 7.02, but that's what I read, if I remember correctly.

My point, it is technically possible to possible to build Netscape based on Mozilla. (I don't think it's legal to do so.)

BTW,
Netscape 7.1 Streamline and Netscape 7.1 Streamline Japanese are build with Netscape CCK 7.0 and a number of advanced steps.

another issue,
I am still unable to post in the Netscape newsgroup (secnews), still doubting that I am being banned.
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Postby ChrisI » Thu 03 Jun, 2004 1:27 pm

Antony wrote:If I remember correctly, just about 1 or 2 weeks before the release of NS 7.02 (OR perhaps 7.1), Holger had his own build of Netscape 7.02 (OR 7.1) based on then latest Mozilla instead of Netscape, according his announcement on Netscape secnews.
Nope; remember the unofficial 7.1 beta leak, that was on the FTP server a couple of days before the release?
http://sillydog.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2446
Holger built the first Netscape 7.1 Compact on those XPIs.
Antony wrote:another issue,
I am still unable to post in the Netscape newsgroup (secnews), still doubting that I am being banned.
Are you able to read the groups? Have you tried using a news reader capable of secure NNTP?
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Postby Don_HH2K » Thu 03 Jun, 2004 6:11 pm

What I meant was would I be able to integrate AIM into the sidebar but still have the functionality of Mozilla 1.7. I don't mind having Mozilla icons, etc... as mentioned before
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Postby ChrisI » Thu 03 Jun, 2004 6:16 pm

That's what you're going to get in Netscape 7.2.
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Postby Antony » Thu 03 Jun, 2004 6:30 pm

ChrisI wrote:
Antony wrote:If I remember correctly, just about 1 or 2 weeks before the release of NS 7.02 (OR perhaps 7.1), Holger had his own build of Netscape 7.02 (OR 7.1) based on then latest Mozilla instead of Netscape, according his announcement on Netscape secnews.
Nope; remember the unofficial 7.1 beta leak, that was on the FTP server a couple of days before the release?
I still believe that he was seeking testers for his very own Netscape 7.02 or 7.1 before the leaks.

ChrisI wrote:Are you able to read the groups? Have you tried using a news reader capable of secure NNTP?
No, I can't connect to the newsgroup at all. Unless I use my old Win machine, but in that machine, I was unable to post.
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Postby Don_HH2K » Fri 04 Jun, 2004 3:59 pm

ChrisI wrote:That's what you're going to get in Netscape 7.2.

Yes, but we have no idea if and when that will come out.
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Postby Wellander » Fri 04 Jun, 2004 4:07 pm

dluchini30 wrote:
ChrisI wrote:That's what you're going to get in Netscape 7.2.

Yes, but we have no idea if and when that will come out.

Hi,
It will be out soon after 1.7 releases.
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Postby ChrisI » Fri 04 Jun, 2004 4:43 pm

dluchini30 wrote:
ChrisI wrote:That's what you're going to get in Netscape 7.2.
Yes, but we have no idea if and when that will come out.
There really isn't any question whether or not Netscape 7.2 will be released. Netscape didn't make the announcement, and start rehiring for nothing.

When will it be released? That depends on the release of Mozilla 1.7. Last year, Netscape 7.1 was released only a few hours before Mozilla 1.4.
Right now, Mozilla 1.7 RC3 should be out on Monday, June 7th, "if all goes well."
Mozilla 1.7, would then be slated for Friday June 11th.
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Postby Wellander » Sat 12 Jun, 2004 2:02 am

Hi,
To the Original poster can I ask why you want this.
I am just wondering.
7.2 should be out hopely less then one month.
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Postby Don_HH2K » Sat 12 Jun, 2004 6:47 am

Wellander wrote:Hi,
To the Original poster can I ask why you want this.
I am just wondering.
7.2 should be out hopely less then one month.


I wanted something like this because Netscapes aren't released as Mozillas are, and newer Mozilla's have new features but I never really wanted to get rid of some of the AOL features that I use. So I figured that if I left NIM and Mail alone and replace browser.xpi and maybe xpcom.xpi I could still get it to integrate with AIM and Netscape Webmail (which is currently my e-mail provider).
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Resource Leak Fix

Postby Don_HH2K » Mon 14 Jun, 2004 7:41 pm

Just an idea, but would doing likewise with the Mozilla 1.4.1 XPIs fix the resource leak problem?
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Postby Wellander » Tue 15 Jun, 2004 12:41 am

Hi,
There is 1.4.2 which is newer.
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