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by **DiGravioandSons** » Fri 29 Jul, 2005 4:52 am

Netscape has pulled 8.0.3.1 because of issues. They went back to 8.0.2 as offical download.

Subject changed from "Netscape8.0.3 PULLED 8.0.2 Offical Download" by Antony - 29.7.2005

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by **Antony** » Fri 29 Jul, 2005 5:23 am

DiGravioandSons wrote:Netscape has pulled 8.0.3.1 because of issues. They went back to 8.0.2 as offical download.

Thanks.

Please see [sdp=61276]this post[/sdp].

According to Mr. Jay Garcia,
8.0.3.1 was pulled until some critical issues are fixed and a patch becomes available.
(reference)

At time of posting, no further explanation was given by either Netscape or Mr. Jay Garcia.

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by **MJR** » Fri 29 Jul, 2005 8:14 am

This is not good. Makes one think v8.0.3.1 was a slapdash release.
But then, who knows? I could be wrong.

v8.0.2 was a real improvement over previous betas except that it crashes almost always from 11pm onwards. Very strange. At other times, it's stable.

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by **Antony** » Fri 29 Jul, 2005 8:33 am

MJR wrote:This is not good. Makes one think v8.0.3.1 was a slapdash release.
But then, who knows? I could be wrong.

v8.0.2 was a real improvement over previous betas except that it crashes almost always from 11pm onwards. Very strange. At other times, it's stable.

Let's wait for a stable release.

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by **Antony** » Fri 29 Jul, 2005 9:46 am

From NetscapeProduct,
8.0.3.1 was pulled temporarily due to a bug effecting downloading for some users. We've isolated the problem and a patch will be issued shortly.

Thanks for your patience.

-Netscape Product

(Msg # 2612.1)

screenshot:

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by **Fulvio** » Fri 29 Jul, 2005 9:54 am

I have been using 8.0.3.1 very little, and, it has worked better than earlier versions, for me (fewer of those dreadful tabs!).
But it was obvious that something was wrong when they had, originally, said that four issues where addressed (probably the never seen 8.0.3), which were pared down to two with 8.0.3.1. This is incredibly sloppy.

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by **Ramona** » Sat 30 Jul, 2005 4:16 pm

TITLE:
Netscape Multiple Vulnerabilities

SECUNIA ADVISORY ID:
SA16185

VERIFY ADVISORY:
http://secunia.com/advisories/16185/

CRITICAL:
Highly critical

IMPACT:
System access

WHERE:
>From remote

SOFTWARE:
Netscape 8.x
http://secunia.com/product/5134/

DESCRIPTION:
Some vulnerabilities have been reported in Netscape, where some have
unknown impacts and others can be exploited by malicious people to
compromise a user's system.

For more information, see vulnerabilities #7 and #9:
SA16043

SOLUTION:
Update to version 8.0.3.1.
http://browser.netscape.com/ns8/download/default.jsp

OTHER REFERENCES:
SA16043:
http://secunia.com/advisories/16043/

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by **Fulvio** » Sat 30 Jul, 2005 8:35 pm

FYI: The Secunia link is to the Netscape site, which offers 8.0.2.
Now, what is the real story?

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by **Ramona** » Sat 30 Jul, 2005 10:13 pm

The Secunia Security Advisory was issued on July 26, and the Netscape Product Announcement is dated July 29....

Edited to remove poor choice of words. My bad! :roll:

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by **Alice** » Sun 31 Jul, 2005 6:42 am

Ramona wrote: I imagine that Secunia had no clue that Netscape would ask users to revert back to 8.0.2 from 8.0.3.1.

Where did you see that?

AFAIK users who have already installed 8.0.3.1 and who are not having problems should stay with 8.0.3.1 since it is MORE secure than 8.0.2.

Jay Garcia has posted additional information, here:
Netscape's Netscape Browser Forum

If you and others had been following the discussions and posts by several users complaining about not being able to download using 8.0.3.1 then you would understand WHY 8.0.3.1 was pulled, we will NOT continue to provide this version. And I DID announce it but not in the announcements section. I also provided a link to the archives so users not happy with 8.0.3.1 can download a previous version until this is patched and re-spun. The download problem is universal enough to warrant a re-spin, but not experienced by "some" users. I can't d'load using 8.0.3.1 either.
<snip>
_________
Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion
UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org

[Edit by profman: Used BBCode to shorten long URL, 7/31/2005.]

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by **Ramona** » Sun 31 Jul, 2005 1:51 pm

Alice wrote:
Ramona wrote:I imagine that Secunia had no clue that Netscape would ask users to revert back to 8.0.2 from 8.0.3.1.

Where did you see that?

Oh Lord! O.K., perhaps a poor choice of words. However, if I couldn't download, I sure as heck would be "reverting" to an earlier version...

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by **Alice** » Sun 31 Jul, 2005 4:29 pm

I just wanted to clarify that Netscape did not advise 8.0.3.1 users to revert to 8.0.2, although users having download problems may wish to do so.

Alternately, those users having problems downloading with Netscape 8.0.3.1 may wish to switch to another browser in the interim, if worried about the security issues in Netscape 8.0.2. I would suggest Firefox 1.0.6.

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by **Antony** » Mon 01 Aug, 2005 6:45 am

Not to join this "revert" wording issue, but I would like to simply explain it. And I have more interesting thing to post.

Alice wrote:
Ramona wrote: I imagine that Secunia had no clue that Netscape would ask users to revert back to 8.0.2 from 8.0.3.1.
Where did you see that?

I changed the original topic of this thread "Netscape8.0.3 PULLED 8.0.2 Offical Download" to "Netscape 8.0.3.1 retracted, revert back to 8.0.2".
Netscape did revert back the offering to 8.0.2.
Perhaps, the word "revert" was from SillyDog701?

Well, thanks for the message quote, let's see what Mr Garcia said.

Firstly, Mr Jay Garcia said, (he) DID announce it but not in the announcements section.
Was he expecting people to read every post he made? Gee.

Secondly, Netscape 8.0.3.1 was retracted and the offering was reverted back to 8.0.2 was that simply because our good friend, Mr Jay Garcia, who had problem with Netscape 8.0.3.1?

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by **Alice** » Mon 01 Aug, 2005 11:37 am

Antony wrote:I changed the original topic of this thread "Netscape8.0.3 PULLED 8.0.2 Offical Download" to "Netscape 8.0.3.1 retracted, revert back to 8.0.2".
Netscape did revert back the offering to 8.0.2.
Perhaps, the word "revert" was from SillyDog701?

Yes, you're the culprit, Antony

As to your issues with Jay Garcia............. no comment.

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by **Antony** » Mon 01 Aug, 2005 6:15 pm

Alice wrote:Yes, you're the culprit, Antony

Me? I did not say Netscape asked users to revert back to 8.0.2.

Alice wrote:As to your issues with Jay Garcia............. no comment.

Oh, I have no issues with Mr Garcia, except I don't understand why such demanding (of everybody to read his every single post) was used in Netscape's supporting forum, and making people feel that Netscape 8.0.3.1 was pulled because it did not work for him.

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Netscape 8.0.3.1 retracted, revert back to 8.0.2

Netscape 8.0.3.1 retracted, revert back to 8.0.2

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