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theme of the netscape protype

Postby Web_explorer » Sat 21 May, 2005 5:50 am

i don't linke the theme netscape8, i like the theme of netscape protype , anybody can tell me how to rip the theme form netscape protype?
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Postby Joji » Sat 21 May, 2005 12:35 pm

J-M wrote:The historic about:mozilla location bar feature now works again in this release:

from The Book of Mozilla, 7:15

Antony,
Don't forget adding this on "The Book of Mozilla" page. :)
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Postby Antony » Sat 21 May, 2005 8:12 pm

Joji wrote:
J-M wrote:The historic about:mozilla location bar feature now works again in this release:

from The Book of Mozilla, 7:15

Antony,
Don't forget adding this on "The Book of Mozilla" page. :)
Thanks. Added :-)
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Postby Hendikins » Sun 22 May, 2005 11:43 am

Here's an interesting point that was brought up in #bs earlier: It appears that AOL/Netscape may be using the Firefox logo and trademark in violation of the Mozilla Foundation policy for trademark usage.

The only official response so far has been "I can't comment on that right now.", which I am assuming is off the record, due to the nature of #bs.

That could certainly be an interesting can of worms to open...
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Postby Joji » Sun 22 May, 2005 11:08 pm

FYI,

In Netscape Community site, there are Theme page and Extension page for Developers.
Although there is little description at now, it seems Netscape is encouraging development.

We will be releasing an SDK for Netscape Browser theme development soon.

You can submit theme and/or extension via e-mail.
Also, the Theme Park is back for N8. :)
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Modern theme for NN8

Postby PW » Mon 23 May, 2005 3:06 pm

Good news,

the elegant Modern Modoki theme (skin) resembling something of the original Modern Mozilla theme has been updated (v 1.10) to work with the final 8.0 version (8.0.1 for sure too). I installed it couple of hours ago and absolutely no problem. I highly recommend this theme, it makes the interface more tidy. It even puts the orange Go and Search right so it doesnt look like in a toy shop :-)

Check out at:

http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~denshizuno/ ... ki.en.html
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Postby Fulvio » Mon 23 May, 2005 8:56 pm

You will get v1.11 when you get it. Thank you guys.
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people.netscape.com down

Postby PW » Mon 30 May, 2005 11:21 am

Yesterday I noticed that people.netscape.com is not working anymore, why? Did they plug it out. It was working before a week or so. It was some kind of a museum and a tribute to those people who revolutionalized internet and brought it to people. Please put it back.

For those who never visited it, you can still check the saved site on
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://people.netscape.com
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Postby TK19 » Mon 30 May, 2005 8:01 pm

If anyone finds out when NS8 is out for mac please tell me!

Thanks
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Postby orizng » Thu 02 Jun, 2005 6:57 pm

only one thing i dont understand,
NS 8.01 seems use much more RAM than NS 8 beta and firefox, anybody else has same situation?
Its ok as long as the CPU usage is not very high, but why it suddenly require so much RAM? its only from NS 8 beta to NS8.01, is this a bug?
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Postby Pu7o » Fri 03 Jun, 2005 5:15 am

it happens to me also, sometimes it even goes up to 99% CPU :(
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Spyware as truste site?

Postby PW » Sat 04 Jun, 2005 9:17 am

Check this very interesting discussing on Netscape Review board:
http://community.netscape.com/n/pfx/for ... scpbrowser
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Re: Spyware as truste site?

Postby Antony » Sat 04 Jun, 2005 9:26 am

PW wrote:Check this very interesting discussing on Netscape Review board:
http://community.netscape.com/n/pfx/for ... scpbrowser
Thanks for the link PW.

That makes the whole "trusted" thing a lot clearer.
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Netscape 8 Tweaking and Tuning

Postby PW » Mon 06 Jun, 2005 4:13 pm

I have made my own site (using graphics from browser.netscape.com) with themes and extensions working in NS8. There will come also tips, tricks, hints and slight hacks with some time. It is a more or less a beta version now but still IMHO interesting, so check out:

http://ns8.virt.cz

Constructive feedback is welcomed.
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Postby Andrew T. » Tue 07 Jun, 2005 2:38 pm

Well, Netscape 8.0 has been released! Not long ago I would never have anticipated this happening. :)

Given my previous sour experiences with its restrictive checks on the earlier beta and prototype versions, I didn't even bother trying the installer this time; instead I went about having someone install onto a different system meeting the published system "requirements," compress it into an archive, and letting me extract onto my own machine.

A lot of what I had said about Netscape 8.0 beta carries over to the final release as well. However, there have been some positive, notable changes to the software, some of which have addressed my own past criticisms:

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Perhaps most notably, the awful (IMO) "Fusion" theme has been supplemented by "Winscape," a more intuitive theme similar to that of Mozilla Firefox and respecting system colors, and shown in the screenshot immediately above. Assuming they can run the installer, users are given a choice of what theme to use when installing the software. Netscape 8.0, with this option selected, looks suspiciously similar to my mock-up from December 2004.

Otherwise, the Multibar option panel (that I once thought of as a "bank of mystery buttons") has been replaced by a simpler and more descriptive version. It is now easier to note what HTML rendering engine the browser is currently using (through an icon on the status bar), although the entire premise of a browser capable of calling upon an (inferior) rendering engine other than its own gets me uneasy--and I find notions of "security zones" confusing. Also, the control menu now appears when right-clicking on the title bar, and the user agent string that identifies the browser (in access logs, for example) now follows the format executed by Netscape 7.x, with "Netscape/8.0" or "Netscape/8.0.1" at the end. Like Netscape 7.x, Netscape 8.0 implements a built-in AOL Instant Messenger and ICQ client, a feature convenient for some people.

However, I have to say my impressions of Netscape 8.0 are still negative. Although improved over early prototypes and betas, the user interface is still quite cluttered and confusing to use (although the new "Winscape" theme helps make the program almost-usable). The software identifies itself as "Browser 8.0" on the Netscape splash screen with the designation noted in Arial, inconsistent with other fonts used. Tab options are needlessly complicated, and it can be annoying that Netscape.com is automatically loaded in newly created tabs by default. Aside from the presence of the venerable Netscape name, a built-in instant-messaging client, and the unique but problematic "Display like Internet Explorer" feature, there are no compelling reasons to use it instead of Mozilla Firefox 1.0.4, upon which Netscape 8.0.1 has (loosely) been based. At best, Netscape 8.0 is destined to be no more than a niche product.

Unlike previous versions of Netscape (or Mozilla Firefox, the basis for this software), Netscape 8.0 is only available for Windows. This obviously eliminates any potential for Netscape 8.0 to be taken seriously as a legitimate cross-platform browser, and is regrettable.
Even so, I have to give AOL and the firms they have contracted development work out to some credit: It is obvious that a lot of development effort was spent on this product. Netscape 8.0 final is a better piece of software than the betas and prototypes that came before, and a few of my own past criticisms have been resolved.

It is interesting to note that the Netscape 8.0.1 maintenance update was released only a day after the original Netscape 8.0 browser had been released. If anything, this shows that AOL are more committed to Netscape 8.0 than they have been to the existing Netscape 7.x line, whereby bugs and security issues long fixed in equivalent Mozilla releases have lingered untouched for months on end after Netscape as a "real" company was killed in mid-2003.
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