SillyDog701

[kendeed]

Site Controls shows greyed-out cookie controls. I can't find any way to turn the cookie controls back on. It seems as if there is a master control someplace that I can't find, and there isn't any explanation in the Help manual. I'm sure that this a simple problem and I just am missing the obvious answer, but would appreciate help!

Ken

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727)

[richard mitnick]

O.K., here goes.

I am strictly an amateur, but this is what I think:

If you let Netscape 8.x do its own thing, it will install with I.E. as the default engine it will use for all web sites. When Netscape 8.x is using I.E., it is using the I.E. already on your system as part of Windows, and thus is using the cookie configuration you arlreay have in I.E. For example, in I.E., I accept all first party cookies and no third party cookies. So, I think, that is what will happen in Netscape when I select the I.E. engine.

Netscape is not using the Firefox installation on your computer. The reason for this is that, in spite of all of the noise about Firefox, the actual number of installations, on a world scale, is tiny. So, Netscape needs to provide Firefox to those who do not have it. Firefox has its own cookie management, and does not rely on I.E.'s cookies.

So, look at which browser engine you are using., and take it from there.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.1) Gecko/20060130 SeaMonkey/1.0

[macallan1824]

O.K., here goes. ......
When Netscape 8.x is using I.E., it is using the I.E. already on your system as part of Windows, and thus is using the cookie configuration you arlreay have in I.E.

Spot on.... this is why NS8 greys out cookie management for Sites configured to use IE. You must still use Internet Options to setup IE cookies.

Firefox has its own cookie management, and does not rely on I.E.'s cookies.

Spot on.... The smarts provided by NS8 are that it synchronises cookies between the two browser formats, so if you switch from Firefox to IE you'll find any info you need that is stored in cookies (eg login, site setup etc) is already available in IE mode...

Netscape is not using the Firefox installation on your computer.The reason for this is that, in spite of all of the noise about Firefox, the actual number of installations, on a world scale, is tiny. So, Netscape needs to provide Firefox to those who do not have it.

I suspect that even if everyone has Firefox, NS would still ship Firefox as an integral part of NS8. As with all the extensions, especially UI ones, they have made to the Firefox code, shipping a version they have system tested would produce a far more stable NS8 than relying on users having the correct Firefox version installed. Otherwise an upgrade to Firefox may very well break NS........

With IE, NS use a defined interface to access it and don't seem to alter any IE code. I would doubt they have any rights to the source code to be able to do so........

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20060111 Netscape/8.1

[kendeed]

Thanks for the responses.

I went into IE and changed the global settings to their defaults, and that helped. But, some websites still show the cookies option greyed out, so I still haven't completely resolved the problem. I haven't been consistent in the past in designating the rendering engine, so I'm next going to see if the problem occurs only in websites I initially accessed using FF.

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[Fulvio]

My experience has been pretty good, if I started with the assumption that all sites are ok in the Firefox mode. I use the IE mode only for a few sites. and, then there are those with "sniffers" which look at the fact that a Netscape was used, and, not the view. Those sites, which force me to go to IE are boycotted. I am sure that they are not missing much, but it makes me feel better.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050914 K-Meleon/0.9

[macallan1824]

.... But, some websites still show the cookies option greyed out, ....

Just to clarify things:-

• All websites accessed in IE mode will have their Manage Cookie option greyed out. You must use Internet Options to configure things here
• Only websites you access in Firefox mode can have their cookies configured through the NS8 menus.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20060111 Netscape/8.1

[kendeed]

Thanks, macallan1824. To get consistency, I'll return to using NS8, checking each page's browser setting and changing them all to FF and then manually setting what I want re cookies.

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