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[Don_HH2K]

Well, what is THIS?
Right-click, select "Display like Internet Explorer", and it calls Internet Explorer to render! Not good, another Netscape-branded IE launcher. And it is IE, I'm sure, since you can see the IE-like rendering techniques. Now my anger with AOL goes even deeper!

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)

[Andrew T.]

Well, my experence with the Netscape Browser Prorotype is as follows...
I downoladed the setup program, and ran the [tt]NSbrowserSetup-Full.exe[/tt] and I then recived a nice little dialouge box informing me that I don't meet the minimum system requirements of a 233MHz processor, 64MB RAM, and 35MB of Hard Drive space. I belive I meet the requirements. The only possible explanation could be that Windows reads I have 63MB of RAM, when in reality I have 64MB, and this is causing the setup program to give me the error, and quit.

The Netscape browser prototype's installer seems to initiate a check to make sure that the system it is being installed on exactly meets the published system requirements as soon as it is run. It's also picky about OS versions; it refuses to install on Windows 95 or (from one account) Windows NT 4.0...despite the fact that Windows NT 4.0 is listed in the "What operating systems will the Prototype support" section of the official FAQ.

I wonder if there is some offset bit in the installer that could be hacked to circumvent the checks?

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win95; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0

[captjlddavis]

fulvio,

You say that you found an *.s file in the profile folder ?

Maybe I did something wrong when I installed ?

The only thing that I can find is an encrypted file "[tt]c0g1n3n5.r7u[/tt]" that looks like is set in:

[tt]<drive>\program files\New_NS\Netscape Browser\defaults\pref\firefox.js

pref("signon.rememberSignons", true);
pref("signon.expireMasterPassword", false);
pref("signon.SignonFileName", "c0g1n3n5.r7u"); // MERC JVL Countersign in l33t speak then placed in order... C0un73r51gn[/tt]


I may try re-instll and see if I can get an *.s file.

Did you "migrate" any stuff over from Mozilla or FF ?

Thanks

regards:captjlddavis

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910

[Antony]

Well, what is THIS?
Right-click, select "Display like Internet Explorer", and it calls Internet Explorer to render! Not good, another Netscape-branded IE launcher. And it is IE, I'm sure, since you can see the IE-like rendering techniques. Now my anger with AOL goes even deeper!

It gives you a choice when the webpage does not display correctly.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/125.5.5 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/125.11

[Andrew T.]

Well, what is THIS?
Right-click, select "Display like Internet Explorer", and it calls Internet Explorer to render! Not good, another Netscape-branded IE launcher. And it is IE, I'm sure, since you can see the IE-like rendering techniques. Now my anger with AOL goes even deeper!

I had suspicions that this would happen. Given my dislike of Internet Explorer and the inferior MSHTML rendering engine, I obviously do not have good impressions of this feature.

I wonder what would happen if you tried to run the Netscape browser prototype from a system that has had Internet Explorer removed. Would it work?

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win95; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0

[Don_HH2K]

Well, what is THIS?
Right-click, select "Display like Internet Explorer", and it calls Internet Explorer to render! Not good, another Netscape-branded IE launcher. And it is IE, I'm sure, since you can see the IE-like rendering techniques. Now my anger with AOL goes even deeper!

It gives you a choice when the webpage does not display correctly.

Maybe so, but it still sickens me.

Andrew T.: I'll try the next best thing and run it on a system with MSHTML.dll disabled, but I'll probably have to wait until the weekend to get the time to do so.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (un-AXed)

[Edward]

Here is an article on that nifty little "feature"...

I wonder what the Linux version does, since that doesn't have IE...

UserAgent: Opera/7.60 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)

[Edward]

OK, give me a minute to rant.

Are they going back to the old square "N" logo??

UserAgent: Opera/7.60 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)

[Andrew T.]

I wonder what the Linux version does, since that doesn't have IE...

There is no Linux version. The initial version of the Netscape browser prototype is only available on Windows, and that version will only install on Windows 98, ME, 2000, and XP.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win95; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0

[Antony]

I wonder what the Linux version does, since that doesn't have IE...

Perhaps, you can read the Official FAQ about this new Netscape Prototype Browser first.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20041122 Firefox/0.5.6+

[Edward]

I found an unrelated article (after posting the above) which mentioned it was Windows-only and they would make a decision at some point whether to support other operating systems.

UserAgent: Opera/7.60 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)

[Fulvio]

fulvio,

You say that you found an *.s file in the profile folder ?

Maybe I did something wrong when I installed ?

The only thing that I can find is an encrypted file "[tt]c0g1n3n5.r7u[/tt]" that looks like is set in:

[tt]<drive>\program files\New_NS\Netscape Browser\defaults\pref\firefox.js

pref("signon.rememberSignons", true);
pref("signon.expireMasterPassword", false);
pref("signon.SignonFileName", "c0g1n3n5.r7u"); // MERC JVL Countersign in l33t speak then placed in order... C0un73r51gn[/tt]


I may try re-instll and see if I can get an *.s file.

Did you "migrate" any stuff over from Mozilla or FF ?

Thanks

regards:captjlddavis

I migrated the NS7.2 settings. The .s file is the first one before the bookmarks.html.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20041122 Firefox/0.5.6+

[Antony]

First impressions . . . the GUI is atrocious, just as I feared. The navigation buttons look nasty and childish,
and having the animated "N" logo in the top left is off putting. Placing the menubar at the top right of the
window, instead of on the left, just under the titlebar (where it should be) is just plain stoopid!

I like the new design, not stupid.

Please note, the theme is not final.

I've not looked at the System Requirements for this thing yet, but if it says it requires IE, then that
really defeats the purpose of Netscape being an alternative to Microsoft's ubiquitous browser.

According to New Netscape browser supports Internet Explorer, AOL product is based on Firefox (InfoWorld)

While current Firefox users may switch to IE when they have a problem with a Web site, AOL's Netscape unit found a different solution. If a Web site does not display well in the standard Firefox-based configuration in Netscape, it takes two clicks to display the page using the IE engine. The browser stores engine preferences per Web site.

The Netscape browser does not actually include the IE engine, but uses the engine that is part of Windows. As such, the browser only works on Windows computers.

The MISE rendering engine is running anyway whenever you run Windows operating system (version 98 and later). It does not include the MSIE engine, but uses it.

I would like to see a Mac OS X version that uses the AppleWebKit (the Safari rendering engine).

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/125.5.5 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/125.11

[captjlddavis]

Thanks Fulvio,

I never migrate anything over, so that is probably why i do not have the *.s file.

Very strange indeed.

No mention of signon.txt anyplace that I can find......other than what I mentioned.

Oh well, back to the drawing board.

regards:captjlddavis

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910

[north450]

when i entered the site i saw this
With this new Netscape Prototype Browser, it is also possible to display the website correctly, even if it was designed for MSIE, because you are allowed to switch to MSIE's rendering engine when necessary. For better security protection, we suggest you not doing so.

Does that mean the new prototype is a layover over MSIE.
Like slimbrowser etc that uses files from MSIE.

That would suggest the new prototype will be using fles from MSIE and this would infer that netscape will be running in the background.
The balance of power would be disturbed.
correct me if i am wrong.

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98) Opera 7.54 [en]