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Postby kaosgds » Tue 19 Jul, 2005 5:30 pm

i went to the thunderbird help site, and think i've got a handle on it, but want to make sure it's the way i should be doing it before i mess something up. there's a lot of business mail that i would be in trouble if i lost.

i went to the profile folder again and made a copy of the mail folder in a different directory. once i create a new profile, will i be able to import the mail back in from that?

i tried to open the old netscape mail program, and it wouldn't. it says there's a .dll missing now, perhaps from installing netscape 8? i've since gotten mail on thunderbird that wouldn't be on the old one anyway, so it seems i'm gonna want to save the mail i've got on thunderbird at this point.

am i on the right track?
thanks
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Postby Fulvio » Tue 19 Jul, 2005 9:32 pm

You are, more or less on the right track.
I don't understand why you would have a problem with the older NS. Is only the mail not working? In any event, the .dll file which is missing should have have nothing to do with NS8.x. Does the file has a name. This is very important to know.
I would uninstall NS7.2 from the Add/Remove, delete eveything the Program File, pertaining to it (but back up your bookmarks.html file). Check if the folder with 1.7.2... in Program Files|Common Files|mozilla.org|GRE has been removed, and then reinstall 7.2.
Close the programs, and use windows Explorer. As for the old mail, I hope that you don't have subfolders (it can be done, though). I suggest that you right click (one at a time on the Inbox and Sent Mail file (on the hard drive), and select copy, and then paste in an empty are of the same mail account folder. Then repeat the process on the Copy, and select Rename. You can enter anything except the original name. Finally right click|copy the renamed file, and paste it into the account folder of Thunderbird. Now you can open TB. It should have a separate folders with the old incoming, and another for the outgoing mail. The old folders will not receive any new mail, and there may be some overlapping, depending on how long your mail stay on the server.
If you had not renamed the old mail files, you would have been asked if you wanted to replace the new mail. Now you have everything.
I hope that all this works, but something crazy must have been going on.
Good luck.
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Postby Alice » Tue 19 Jul, 2005 11:52 pm

From the MozillaZine Knowledge Base
Password not remembered (Thunderbird)
In Thunderbird:
Open the profile's prefs.js in Notepad, find the line [tt]user_pref("signon.rememberSignons", false);[/tt]
and change the value from false to true.

(In Netscape, you can find the preference signon.rememberSignons using about:config to RESET the value)

Hope that helps.
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Postby kaosgds » Wed 20 Jul, 2005 8:57 pm

hi alice!

thanks for the suggestion, but it didn't work...guess i'm back to manually saving my mail and creating an all new profile.
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Postby Alice » Thu 21 Jul, 2005 7:32 pm

What didn't work?

Did you find the following line in your Thunderbird profile's prefs.js file?

user_pref("signon.rememberSignons", false);

If so, then you need to change the false value to true with Thunderbird completely closed. You could also delete the entire line, which should also work. An alternate route would be to install the about:config extension for Thunderbird, available from http://aboutconfig.mozdev.org/ and then use Thunderbird Tools > about:config to right-click the signon.rememberSignons preference and RESET (the same way you would in Netscape 7.2).

If the above doesn't help then you should create a new Thunderbird profile and recreate the first mail account, for testing purposes. If the password-saving function is working in the new profile, post back and someone here will give you more information, if you need it, on transferring the original profile's mail files to the new profile.

Good luck :)
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Postby Alice » Thu 21 Jul, 2005 8:08 pm

P.S. In case it helps:

http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/profile
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Postby kaosgds » Thu 21 Jul, 2005 9:12 pm

i did find the line in prefs.js and changed it, making sure that thunderbird was closed. didn't make a difference. i'll try deleting the whole line and see if that works. should i type it back in, or run without it?

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Postby Alice » Fri 22 Jul, 2005 7:44 am

First, as a precaution, open the Thunderbird profile folder.... for example, on a WinXP system:
C:\Documents and Settings\Alice\Application Data\Thunderbird\Profiles\default.abc\
and make a backup copy of the prefs.js file located inside.

Next, open the original prefs.js file inside the profile folder with Notepad, find the line
user_pref("signon.rememberSignons", false);
and place the cursor in front of the line.

Delete the entire line or, if you prefer, place two slashes in front of the line, like this:

// user_pref("signon.rememberSignons", false);

Close the Notepad window and say YES when asked if you want to save the change.

[NOTE: While you are in the profile folder, check to see if you have a user.js file and open that in Notepad also. You MAY have an entry in the user.js that is adding back the user_pref("signon.rememberSignons", false); line... if so, remove the line in the user.js file..... I'm trying to cover all bases.]

Does that work?

If you still aren't able to save passwords, you could check to see if you have a Master Password set up, in case that's part of the problem. (I don't use that option myself.)
Tools -> Options-> Advanced -> Under Saved Passwords:
Click the Master Password button.
Is the "Use a master password..." box checkmarked? If so, click the "Reset Password" button and then UNcheck the box.
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Re: passwords for receiving mail

Postby Alice » Fri 22 Jul, 2005 9:55 am

kaosgds wrote: should i type it back in, or run without it?

thanks


I should add that I'm not clear on what you meant by that.

Do you now see a line,
user_pref("signon.rememberSignons", false);
or
user_pref("signon.rememberSignons", true);
in your prefs.js?

Since the default option is "true", that line can and should be completely missing from the prefs.js and Thunderbird will find the "true" preference from the program defaults. There is no need to add anything back to the prefs.js file.
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