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by **Gregor** » Fri 08 Aug, 2003 3:37 am

I encountered a problem with pages which contains Java applets. When page is loaded, Opera can not be shutted down, only through Task Manager.
I have Java 1.4.2 installed. Thank You for any tips in advance.

UserAgent: Opera/7.11 (Windows NT 5.0; U) [en]

by **Fulvio** » Sat 09 Aug, 2003 10:47 am

Gregor wrote:I encountered a problem with pages which contains Java applets. When page is loaded, Opera can not be shutted down, only through Task Manager.
I have Java 1.4.2 installed. Thank You for any tips in advance.

Any example? I will not upgrade to 1.4.2, so I can tell you if 1.3.1.6 works. None of the other JREs have worked for me, in Opera or Netscape.
Is Opera that can't be shut down, or is there a Java component?

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 (CK-SillyDog)

by **Edward** » Sat 09 Aug, 2003 7:03 pm

JRE 1.4.2 works with Windows 98, but I don't know about Windows XP.

The problem I once had with JRE 1.4.1_02 (under 98) was Opera would crash if it loaded just about ANY page with a Java applet, most notably BBC News. Whatever caused Opera to crash in 1.4.1_02, it was fixed in 1.4.2.

WRT the above, as the Java applet loaded, that was the point where Opera crashed.

It's possible that 1.4.2 doesn't work correctly with XP, or perhaps the download or installation of Java was bad.

UserAgent: Opera/7.11 (Linux 2.4.20-4GB i586; U) [en]

by **Gregor** » Mon 11 Aug, 2003 1:04 am

When you visit www.hauraton.si in upper left corner Java applet is loading.
In my case the problen is:
When I visit this /or other page the Java applet loads in 1-2 seconds. When after paying a visit to this sort of page, I want to shut down the Opera problem starts. I actually can shut down :!:

, but the mouse pointer is still blinking so Java is still active. I did check Task Manager and find out that in processes managed Opera.exe is in and active :!:

OS: Windows 2000 Pro-SP4 for IT pro
Browser: Opera 7.11
Java: 1.4.2 final

Pls. note that with Netscape 7.02 and 7.1 and beta version of 1.4.2 I never encountered on problem like this.
I suspect that Java plug-in is not shutting down itself properly. When Installing Java Opera can not be identified - there is no option for it. The only available is for IE.

UserAgent: Opera/7.11 (Windows NT 5.0; U) [en]

by **Edward** » Wed 13 Aug, 2003 7:59 pm

Gregor,

You might want to report that as a bug. It sounds like one.

Opera Bug Report

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by **Gregor** » Fri 29 Aug, 2003 7:52 am

I think that the problem lies in the matter how Opera handels the parts of Javas DLL.
I must (by regret) say that Opera isn`t the fastest browser on earth and neither "Simply the best internet experience " as they advertise.
Why:
M2 is one good thing, but it doesn`t have return receipt function which is vital for corporate usage.
It has a lot of bugs (from beta 3 to 7 at least 50 were corrected) but it still does not work correctly.
About speed: If You play honestly, Opera definetlly isn`t the fastest browser on earth. Why? Because you are forced to spoof UA all the time. The pages from principal offices work great in Netscape, but in Opera there are problems during every visit. I hate spoofing UA !

There is something to learn from Opera : mouse gestures for example.

I think that Opera has a long way to go to be there where Netscape is at the moment. It is so, that Netscape is the most reliable end user free browser on the scene at the moment.

Gregor

UserAgent: Opera/7.20 (Windows NT 5.0; U) [en]

by **Edward** » Fri 29 Aug, 2003 4:56 pm

WRT return-receipts, I'm sure Opera has their reasons for not offering that option.

I can guess that such an option would have to work both ways, for you to receive a return-receipt, the server that accepts the e-mail sent to it, must also have return-receipt capability. In some cases, if one is requested and is eventually not received, it's because the receiving server either is not capable of sending one, or simply the admin chooses not to allow them to be sent back.

If return-receipts were more commonplace, I would hope Opera would add in such functionality at some point.

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Linux 2.4.20-4GB i586) Opera 7.11 [en]

by **Gregor** » Wed 03 Sep, 2003 2:28 am

I thought that return receipt is Mail Client related ?

UserAgent: Opera/7.20 (Windows NT 5.0; U) [en]

by **Edward** » Wed 03 Sep, 2003 5:27 pm

Some e-mail clients (like Netscape/Mozilla, and I think Outlook Express may offer it), will have a selection to request a return-receipt. That simply adds a "Return-Receipt-To" header to the outbound e-mail, with your e-mail address.

The recipient's e-mail server would also have to be configured to send out return-receipts, if it receives a request as described above. If such a receipt is requested (via the above header) and the receiving server does not have that capability, the sender will not receive one.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i586; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

by **profman** » Wed 03 Sep, 2003 7:09 pm

I have a thread, JAVA crash to Desktop, that now includes reference to the fact that Gregor's above-mentioned JAVA site, http://www.hauraton.si/ , also causes Mozilla 1.5b to crash to the desktop under Windows 98. Turning off JAVA prevents this crash in Mozilla.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030827

by **Edward** » Wed 03 Sep, 2003 8:04 pm

But are these problems caused by Java, or the web browser?

A previous version of Java caused Opera (Windows) to crash on some sites that had Java applets. BBC News was one of the sites (they have since changed the item in question from a java applet to something else). When the next release of Java came out, it corrected the Opera crashing problem.

UserAgent: Opera/7.11 (Linux 2.4.20-4GB i586; U) [en]

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