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Mandrake
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Ron Williams
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 21 Sep, 2005 8:39 pm |
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| Mandrake wrote: |  It's bleedingly obvious the "Admin" account is Antony, but I'd seriously doubt that he's trying to hide anything. |
Gee, dont say too much, you might be de-moderated.
| Mandrake wrote: | | On 19 June 2002 Antony sets up this forum, the first account created is "Admin". |
The first account is ants, which is later changed to admin.
| Mandrake wrote: | | So what's the big deal? |
Antony lies and says its a different person when in reality it is himself. Thats why, can't he admit it?
| Mandrake wrote: | | Then stop acting like an arrogant boy and don't post here. |
Interestingly you perceive my seeking honesty as arrogance. If someone is "bleedingly obvious" about lieing, then I think they should have this pointed out.
| Ramona wrote: | | Then why do you persist in posting? |
I continue posting because I hope people will see who Antony really is.
| Antony wrote: | When did I lie to you?
"Admin" is another administrator, I won't say who, not JayGarcia "he's not an admin" and it's nobody you know. |
Read your own Moderators statement. "It's bleedingly obvious the "Admin" account is Antony"
Well I did not know you until I came to SD701, now I am sad that I did.
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Ramona
Joined: 19 Jun 2002
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Location: Midwest USA
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| 21 Sep, 2005 8:55 pm |
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| Ron wrote: | | Ramona wrote: |
Then why do you persist in posting? |
I continue posting because I hope people will see who Antony really is. |
We are all aware of who our Administrator is, and that is Antony Shen. You are very young Ron, and I have no intention of going on with this immature argument. You would do well to desist your ridiculous railing about Antony.
If you wish to defend Jay, that is your privilege, and Antony hasn't interfered with you in that regard. He is very open to discussion, even if he doesn't agree. We just had a discussion about that very topic in the Mod Forum.
My last word to you on this subject, is to echo Mandrake. Stop posting here if you detest this Forum, and instead post on the uFAQ Forum. This is the action a mature adult would take.
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Antony
Joined: 18 Jun 2002
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| 21 Sep, 2005 10:58 pm |
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| Ron Williams wrote: | | Gee, dont say too much, you might be de-moderated. |
Too bad, I'll have to disappoint you.
| Ron Williams wrote: | | Antony lies and says its a different person when in reality it is himself. Thats why, can't he admit it? |
I did not lie to you. I only said,
"Admin" is another administrator, I won't say who, not JayGarcia "he's not an admin" and it's nobody you know.
which was actually words borrowed from Jay Garcia... on the account of word censoring he conducted.
SillyDog701 does not censor Jay Garcia's UFAQ.
| Ron Williams wrote: | | Antony wrote: | When did I lie to you?
"Admin" is another administrator, I won't say who, not JayGarcia "he's not an admin" and it's nobody you know. |
Read your own Moderators statement. "It's bleedingly obvious the "Admin" account is Antony"
Well I did not know you until I came to SD701, now I am sad that I did. |
I did not lie to you.
You did find out one thing, the "Admin" account was originally named "ants," but that's not good enough.
It's not a secret, as most of you would know, SillyDog701 couldn't have today's achievement without supports from all our members. The same thing goes to the server end. Antony is not afraid to admit that he does not know everything, (but he knows VPN very well.) Antony does have a good friend who is expert in UNIX. And he consults with his friend from time to time. "Admin" is used by that UNIX expert, he does not post much, but provides lots of technical assistance.
"Admin" is another administrator, not JayGarcia "he's not an admin" and it's nobody you know.
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JayGarcia
Jay Garcia
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| 22 Sep, 2005 1:33 pm |
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Antony,
I'll ask, very politely, to please stop referencing me EVERY time some controversy comes up in this forum. Thanks.
Nothing more than a YES or NO answer will be sufficient.
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Antony
Joined: 18 Jun 2002
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| 22 Sep, 2005 3:42 pm |
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| JayGarcia wrote: | Antony,
I'll ask, very politely, to please stop referencing me EVERY time some controversy comes up in this forum. Thanks.
Nothing more than a YES or NO answer will be sufficient. |
Jay,
It is my pleasure to hear from you again.
I will answer your question directly, I did not refer to you at all.
Just the same way as you added the Chris's name when answering.
Just allow me to remind you what you wrote...
| JayGarcia wrote: | | 2) The word censor episode on the UFAQ was done by another admin, I won't say who, not ChrisI "he's not an admin" and it's nobody you know, and when I discovered it myself, I immediately removed it. |
Also your admin (or anyone representing UFAQ) has not offered a formal apology on that merciless insult.
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JayGarcia
Jay Garcia
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| 22 Sep, 2005 3:59 pm |
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| Quote: | I will answer your question directly, I did not refer to you at all.
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Really, then what is this, a figment of the imagination???? | Quote: | "Admin" is another administrator, I won't say who, not JayGarcia "he's not an admin" and it's nobody you know.
which was actually words borrowed from Jay Garcia... on the account of word censoring he conducted.
SillyDog701 does not censor Jay Garcia's UFAQ. |
Do you want more examples?? Most every time something comes up of a controversial nature, you find some way to make reference to some past incident. Please stop this practice. If "Chris" wants his name to stop being used then that's his business. My business is that I don't want my name mentioned here in this forum at all, for ANY reason by YOU Mr Shen. Your name isn't mentioned in anything but helpful support posts on my UFAQ and NEVER in reference to anything harmful. Yes, I did mention your name in a post or two in anger but thought better of it and deleted those posts. I suggest you follow suit and do the same here. And your insinuating that "I" conducted those word censoring posts. I didn't, you know that because I told you I didin't but I took care of it and it's none of YOUR business or anybody else's business who DID it ....
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JayGarcia
Jay Garcia
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| 22 Sep, 2005 4:21 pm |
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Real "cute" how you just keep bringing me up in conversation ...
| Quote: | | Also your admin (or anyone representing UFAQ) has not offered a formal apology on that merciless insult. |
I am the owner of the UFAQ, there are other admins. I will NOT tender an apology for something that another admin did. But I DID correct the situation by reversing the undue censoring. If the person that did it wishes to tender an apology then they will or they won't, it's their choice not mine.
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Antony
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| 22 Sep, 2005 4:28 pm |
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| JayGarcia wrote: | | Your name isn't mentioned in anything but helpful support posts on my UFAQ and NEVER in reference to anything harmful. |
Same thing here. I always have good words about you.
| JayGarcia wrote: | | Yes, I did mention your name in a post or two in anger but thought better of it and deleted those posts. |
Anger?
I am sure many people would be shocked to hear that "anger" is the reaction of the recipient when SillyDog701 and I expressed our deepest concern and wishes.
| JayGarcia wrote: | | And your insinuating that "I" conducted those word censoring posts. |
Didn't you constantly deny it? Until you mentioned another admin? You even blamed Google.
If you check all past posts, you should have noticed that I only state that person or someone who represent UFAQ must tender an apology.
| JayGarcia wrote: | | I didn't, you know that because I told you I didin't but I took care of it and it's none of YOUR business or anybody else's business who DID it ... |
There's something wrong in that sentence, Mr Garcia.
I knew you told me you didn't. I also knew UFAQ merciless insulted SillyDog701 and never apologised.
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Antony
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| 22 Sep, 2005 4:37 pm |
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| JayGarcia wrote: | Real "cute" how you just keep bringing me up in conversation ...
| Quote: | | Also your admin (or anyone representing UFAQ) has not offered a formal apology on that merciless insult. |
I am the owner of the UFAQ, there are other admins. I will NOT tender an apology for something that another admin did. But I DID correct the situation by reversing the undue censoring. If the person that did it wishes to tender an apology then they will or they won't, it's their choice not mine. |
I am sure you heard the message. Your other admin or whoever represents UFAQ MUST surrender an apology.
Do you want more examples?
If a company makes a mistake, either the company or someone in charge of it must apologise, otherwise the OWNER is the one got blamed.
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JayGarcia
Jay Garcia
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| 22 Sep, 2005 6:01 pm |
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Full of lies once more, Antony, as witnessed by your very first post in the "Katrina" thread, to wit | Quote: | SillyDog701 worries about Jay Garcia's safety
It seems like Hurricane Katrina is quite serious in Louisiana state, in particular the "Big Easy" area, New Orleans.
SillyDog701 would like to express our concern about the safety of Mr. Jay Garcia, and his good pal, DrDean.
Mr. Jay Garcia is the man behind The Unofficial Netscape FAQ (UFAQ) and the admin of Netscape secure newsgroups. He has provided great help to Netscape community over those years.
Earlier this year, SillyDog701 discovered condemnable and unethical cybersquatting behaviour conducted by Mr. Jay Garcia.
SillyDog701 holds no grudges.
For those who are interested on what had happened, please see those related threads:
UFAQ.org cybersquats SillyDog701
UFAQ.org bans and cybersquats SillyDog701
Again, Antony Shen and SillyDog701 hold no grudges against Mr Jay Garcia or his UFAQ. |
Why didn't you just end the message with the paragraph beginning "Mr Jay Garcia is the man behind The Unofficial Netscape FAQ ........ And PLEASE don't waste everybody's time by telling us you just HAD to explain that you "hold no grudges". If you held no grudges, Antony, you wouldn't have gone to great lengths to point out the past incidents. But instead you seized upon the opportunity to bring it up once again. What does "grudges" have to to with a concern for my safety??? You even had to "poke" a little by mentioning my good friend "DrDean". There was no reason for that either as you and everybody else knows that DrDean is in Canada, a long long way away from hurricane Katrina.
| Quote: | | I am sure you heard the message |
.. and I'm sure you heard mine.
| Quote: | | If a company makes a mistake, either the company or someone in charge of it must apologise, otherwise the OWNER is the one got blamed. |
Oh really?? You mean if one of your admins or moderators insults me in this forum and I let it be known that I am very much insulted and that admin or moderator does not apologize and is no longer a member, that YOU, Antony Shen, will apologize ??
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Pu7o
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Pu7o
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| 22 Sep, 2005 6:19 pm |
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By the way...
Mr. Jay Garcia, why are you so annoyed with being mentioned in a thread? You were simply mentioned, yet, you had to make a 7-headed monster out of it.
Personally, I think you're a complete idiot who would do everything and anything to make this website look less friendly. However, maybe not everyone thinks the way I do. After reading this thread though, most people probably will.
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JayGarcia
Jay Garcia
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| 22 Sep, 2005 6:27 pm |
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| Quote: | | Mr. Jay Garcia, why are you so annoyed with being mentioned in a thread? |
Simply because I believe it to be ludicrous and two-faced to be singled out in a Katrina thread where my <cough> safety was such a big concern and at the same time, Antony took the opportunity to exploit a past incident which was satisfied amicably, at least from point of view it was.
Tell, us .. Does Antony snore? 
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Pu7o
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| 22 Sep, 2005 6:33 pm |
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Amicably? You call a 9-page thread of bashing back and forward "Amicably"?
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Henceforth, you shall be known as... Darth Extremist. |
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