“Apple has successfully completed the transition to using Intel processors in just seven months—210 days to be exact,â€
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Mac Pro: Quad Core. Up to 3GHz.
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Mac Pro: Quad Core. Up to 3GHz.
by Pu7o » Mon 07 Aug, 2006 2:00 pm
Apple on WWDC 2006 unveiled Mac Pro, a G5 Power Mac successor. Mac Pro is Intel-powered Mac Pro. Running on the Intel Xeon dual core processor, codenamed "Woodcrest" while in development, the new 64-bitcomputer offers up to 3GHz speed, 4MB shared L2 cache, and a 1.33GHz front-side bus for each processor. With advanced performance, greater expansion, higher performance graphics options and unprecedented customization, the newly designed Mac Pro is the ideal system for the most demanding user. The introduction of the Mac Pro marks the completion of a rapid and seamless transition for Apple, with the entire Mac family now using Intel’s latest processors.
“Apple has successfully completed the transition to using Intel processors in just seven months—210 days to be exact,â€
“Apple has successfully completed the transition to using Intel processors in just seven months—210 days to be exact,â€
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by Antony » Mon 07 Aug, 2006 7:26 pm
Mac Pro is not more expensive than PC... as many Apple bashers would've mentioned.
There's the price comparison:
For the same 2 x 2.66 GHz Xeon, 1GB RAM, 250 GB HDD, 16x SuperDrive, Mac Pro is about US$1000 cheaper than Dell Precision 690.
There's the price comparison:
For the same 2 x 2.66 GHz Xeon, 1GB RAM, 250 GB HDD, 16x SuperDrive, Mac Pro is about US$1000 cheaper than Dell Precision 690.
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by Pu7o » Mon 07 Aug, 2006 7:38 pm
Except the Dell has a more powerful graphics card. You can't compare an NVIDIA Quadro with a GeForce.
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by Don_HH2K » Mon 07 Aug, 2006 7:49 pm
You can't configure a Dell Precision 690 with 1GB of RAM...
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by Tidus » Mon 07 Aug, 2006 8:09 pm
Don_HH2K wrote:You can't configure a Dell Precision 690 with 1GB of RAM...
Yes you can. Go to Dell's website,and it tells you you can upgrade it to a maximum of 64GB of RAM.
See here: Dell Precision 690
This is where i rarely defend Dell. Having said that, me and Kassie run 3 Dell PowerEdge SC142c rackmount servers at home, and this is where they kick ass!
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by Don_HH2K » Mon 07 Aug, 2006 8:12 pm
Okay, you can configure it with 1GB of RAM. You can't buy it with 1GB of RAM; their offers start at 2GB.
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by DJGM » Mon 07 Aug, 2006 8:13 pm
Tidus wrote:This is where i rarely defend Dell. Having said that, me and Kassie run 3 Dell PowerEdge SC142c rackmount servers at home, and this is where they kick ass!
Very rarely I might add. In all other areas, we both still think Dell is evil!
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by Tidus » Mon 07 Aug, 2006 8:13 pm
And this is why the Dell costs more, because it can take more RAM! I'd like to benchmark both side to side, in fact i'll get KJC CEO Rikku to see if she can organise it for us, and i'll post a review.
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by Antony » Thu 10 Aug, 2006 12:45 am
Someone's got a Mac Pro, and disassembled it.
http://www.powermax.com/articles_review ... .php?id=32
http://www.powermax.com/articles_review ... .php?id=32
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by Antony » Thu 10 Aug, 2006 8:31 pm
Mac Pro is cheaper than comparable Dell's offering, even if you add a 20-inch Apple Cinema Display.
(from The Mac Observer)
While Dell's Precision 490 with a pair of 2GHz Xeon processors is barely cheaper than a Mac Pro equipped the same way, Apple handily beats its competitor when looking at models sporting pairs of 2.66GHz or 3GHz Xeon processors, even with a US$200 discount for small business applied by Dell. Apple is between $400 and $500 cheaper on both of those counts.
Over at Charles Gaba's System Shootouts, he shows how one can buy a Mac Pro with a 20-inch Apple Cinema Display for a few dollars less than a comparable Dell Precision 690 without a monitor. Dell charges for the second Xeon processor as an upgrade, whereas all Mac Pro machines automatically come with two Xeon processors, regardless of the clock speed desired. Dell also charges to upgrade the RAM speed and install a 16X DVD burner, while Apple includes those in the Mac Pro too.
As The Inquirer pointed out, Dell does offer a better warranty than Apple when it comes to the Precision 490 and 690 machines (three years versus one), "but this is less important to small businesses who have their own IT support, and consumers who wish to get the cheapest deal -- something Dell usually wins hands-down," wrote Dean Pullen.
He added: "This is quite incredible ... You have to wonder what sort of discounts Apple are getting from Intel, and if this is why Dell is now holding hands with AMD."
(from The Mac Observer)
While Dell's Precision 490 with a pair of 2GHz Xeon processors is barely cheaper than a Mac Pro equipped the same way, Apple handily beats its competitor when looking at models sporting pairs of 2.66GHz or 3GHz Xeon processors, even with a US$200 discount for small business applied by Dell. Apple is between $400 and $500 cheaper on both of those counts.
Over at Charles Gaba's System Shootouts, he shows how one can buy a Mac Pro with a 20-inch Apple Cinema Display for a few dollars less than a comparable Dell Precision 690 without a monitor. Dell charges for the second Xeon processor as an upgrade, whereas all Mac Pro machines automatically come with two Xeon processors, regardless of the clock speed desired. Dell also charges to upgrade the RAM speed and install a 16X DVD burner, while Apple includes those in the Mac Pro too.
As The Inquirer pointed out, Dell does offer a better warranty than Apple when it comes to the Precision 490 and 690 machines (three years versus one), "but this is less important to small businesses who have their own IT support, and consumers who wish to get the cheapest deal -- something Dell usually wins hands-down," wrote Dean Pullen.
He added: "This is quite incredible ... You have to wonder what sort of discounts Apple are getting from Intel, and if this is why Dell is now holding hands with AMD."
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by Mandrake » Thu 10 Aug, 2006 9:31 pm
Apple must be getting one good deal from Intel on those processors. A quad-core Xeon workstation for under $2500 USD is very impressive.
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by Pu7o » Fri 11 Aug, 2006 1:57 am
Indeed. Nowadays, if one wanted a pre-assembled gaming machine (and could actually afford a quad-core Xeon), a Mac Pro would be a damn great option.
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by Antony » Wed 16 Aug, 2006 12:57 am
Bare Feats has published a benchmark on Quad Mac Pro vs Power Mac G5
They compare Power Mac G5 Quad 2.5GHz, Mac Pro Quad Core 2.66GHz, and Mac Pro Quad Core 3GHz.
It's obviously Mac Pro Quad-Core 3GHz runs faster than Mac Pro 2.66 GHz and faster than G5 Quad 2.5GHz. However in non-Universal applications (such as Photoshop CS2 and After Effects 7.0) running under Rosetta, the speed is still very impressive.
Power Mac G5 quad 2.5GHz beats Mac Pro quad-core 3GHz by 0.4 sec in Photoshop CS2 MP-aware actions, while top end Mac Pro beats top model G5 by 10 secs in After Effects 7.0's Nightflight Render.
It is clearly the Mac Pro will be the best machine to run Photoshop once Adobe provides Universal Binary.
They compare Power Mac G5 Quad 2.5GHz, Mac Pro Quad Core 2.66GHz, and Mac Pro Quad Core 3GHz.
It's obviously Mac Pro Quad-Core 3GHz runs faster than Mac Pro 2.66 GHz and faster than G5 Quad 2.5GHz. However in non-Universal applications (such as Photoshop CS2 and After Effects 7.0) running under Rosetta, the speed is still very impressive.
Power Mac G5 quad 2.5GHz beats Mac Pro quad-core 3GHz by 0.4 sec in Photoshop CS2 MP-aware actions, while top end Mac Pro beats top model G5 by 10 secs in After Effects 7.0's Nightflight Render.
It is clearly the Mac Pro will be the best machine to run Photoshop once Adobe provides Universal Binary.
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by Antony » Thu 17 Aug, 2006 2:24 am
Apple has demonstrated the Mac Pro is cheaper than Dell's equivalent machine,
AnandTech compared Mac Pro with home-built computer...
AnandTech calculated that a custom-assembled system (without assembling charges and software cost), a compatible home built machine would be US$2390, okay, it's $100 cheaper than Mac Pro's list price. However, it does not include case, power supply and a copy of operating system.
Mac Pro with 2x Xeon 5150 (2.66GHz) is priced at US$2499 ($2299 with educational discount)
For detail on the price comparison, please see Apple's Mac Pro - A True PowerMac Successor.
AnandTech compared Mac Pro with home-built computer...
AnandTech calculated that a custom-assembled system (without assembling charges and software cost), a compatible home built machine would be US$2390, okay, it's $100 cheaper than Mac Pro's list price. However, it does not include case, power supply and a copy of operating system.
Mac Pro with 2x Xeon 5150 (2.66GHz) is priced at US$2499 ($2299 with educational discount)
For detail on the price comparison, please see Apple's Mac Pro - A True PowerMac Successor.
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