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J-M


Joined: 25 Jul 2004 Posts: 776 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Fulvio


Joined: 19 Jun 2002 Posts: 11047
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27 Sep, 2006 4:22 pm |
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Be careful to look at every line of the installation screen. There is a Quick Launch checked, which you may not want to use.
UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1) Gecko/20060926 BonEcho/2.0
"I've got a very poor sense of direction. I keep forgetting which way is forwards."
WinXP, SP3, 512 MB, 3.0.15 regular, 3.5.5 regular and portable , TB2.0.0.23, Flock2.5.2, IE8.0, SM2.0, Google Chrome2.0.x, Safari4.0.4, Zone Alarm; AVG9.0, JRE1.6_17 |
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J-M


Joined: 25 Jul 2004 Posts: 776 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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27 Sep, 2006 4:52 pm |
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Netscape 8.1.2 is based to Gecko version 1.7.5:
...en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20060912 Netscape/8.1.2
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Pu7o


Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 1978 Location: Portugal
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27 Sep, 2006 5:20 pm |
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Somewhat interesting that it still uses a Gecko version from two years ago, but whatever. As Antony would say, 2 years ago is fine, you don't need the latest of everything. 
UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; pt-pt) AppleWebKit/420+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/419.3 |
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J-M


Joined: 25 Jul 2004 Posts: 776 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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27 Sep, 2006 5:24 pm |
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This Gecko rv: information is really interesting, previous NS8 thread is worth of checking too:
http://sillydog.org/forum/sdt_12131.php
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DJGM


Joined: 19 Jun 2002 Posts: 4371 Location: Manchester, England, UK
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27 Sep, 2006 5:25 pm |
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So, even though it's a new release, it's still technically obsolete. Best to stick with SeaMonkey and/or Firefox methinks.
UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.5) Gecko/20060721 SeaMonkey/1.0.3
SeaMonkey = Swiss Army Knife: It's versatile, reliable, and contains useful tools.
Windows Internet Explorer = Old Swiss Cheese: Full of holes, and it stinks! |
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Pu7o


Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 1978 Location: Portugal
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27 Sep, 2006 5:29 pm |
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You're linking to this very thread, lol.
By the way... 8.1.2 was released... but we never had an 8.1.1, did we?
UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; pt-pt) AppleWebKit/420+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/419.3 Last edited by Pu7o on 27 Sep, 2006 5:30 pm; edited once(1) |
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J-M


Joined: 25 Jul 2004 Posts: 776 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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J-M


Joined: 25 Jul 2004 Posts: 776 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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28 Sep, 2006 4:51 pm |
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It appears that they don't even upgraded Flash to version 8.0.24 or newer.
After checking the state of about:plugins:
| Quote: | MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
* Mozilla Default Plug-in * No
Shockwave Flash
File name: NPSWF32.dll
Shockwave Flash 8.0 r22 |
More information about the upatched security issue is available at
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/17106/references
Adobe has an update available, however.
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Antony


Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 12751 Location: Sydney, Australia
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28 Sep, 2006 10:56 pm |
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Mr. Jay Garcia said in Netscape's Message Board was only a bug fix and security update. No new features.
| Mr. Jay Garcia wrote: | This is a bug fix and security update release ONLY, no feature enhancements at this time. You can get it HERE from the Netscape FTP site. There are two downloads, the "whole thing" or the stub installer (Internet Install). One little side note: If you choose to download the full package you'll note in the initial install screen the Quick Launch checkbox. Will post release notes when available as to what's fixed and patched. |
UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.0.7) Gecko/20060909 Firefox/1.5.0.7
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Fulvio


Joined: 19 Jun 2002 Posts: 11047
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29 Sep, 2006 12:25 pm |
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Whatever 8.1.2 is, it still has some of the old bugs. Uninstalling 8.1, removed the profile, although I had kept the same profile through 15 uninstall/reinstalls. I was never for a confirmation. Beside that rocky start, the installation appeared to have been clean. I had no trouble getting back to square one.
Still, moving around bookmarks is not easy. It won't take the 30 sec or longer of 8.1, but it still takes five to six seconds to complete a drag and drop. Old bookmarks seem to be deleted instantly.
and, the same 36 yrs. old definition, i.e. no protection, appear for spyware and ID Theft. However, Full Scans work, and sometimes during the scan, protected is indicated. Nothing new.
So far, in three attempts, it did not lock up, although in the second try, it brought up the profile manager. I have only one profile. The other two times, it started normally, but no ball of fire without Quick Launch.
As for resources, with Spyware scan going it was using a moderate 75 MBs. Previously, I rarely was under 100, and I am using two tabs now, up from the single homepage.
The single extra theme, which worked in 8.1, did not work in 8.1.2. Only one of the extentions which was compatible in 8.1, where in 8.1.2, i.e. forecastfox. Roboform and Mr Tech Install were not compatible.
And, as a final touch, I just tried to start 8.1.2, and, it froze on loading. May be Quick Launch is needed, after all. This is NS8.x last chance.
UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060410 Firefox/1.0.8
"I've got a very poor sense of direction. I keep forgetting which way is forwards."
WinXP, SP3, 512 MB, 3.0.15 regular, 3.5.5 regular and portable , TB2.0.0.23, Flock2.5.2, IE8.0, SM2.0, Google Chrome2.0.x, Safari4.0.4, Zone Alarm; AVG9.0, JRE1.6_17 |
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J-M


Joined: 25 Jul 2004 Posts: 776 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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30 Sep, 2006 7:03 am |
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But how can he (and they) say that it is a security update when it's based to remerkable old Gecko version 1.7.5.

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J-M


Joined: 25 Jul 2004 Posts: 776 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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30 Sep, 2006 7:16 am |
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When researching the Flash issue again it appears that the file
C:\Program Files\Netscape\Netscape Browser\Flash-NS.exe
has the following timestamp: | Code: | | 6th January, 2006 22:35:16 |
Description: | Code: | | Macromedia Flash Player 8.0 Installer |
File version information:
I.e. they shipped Netscape 8.1.2 with old, vulnerable version of Flash Player plugin.
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Antony


Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 12751 Location: Sydney, Australia
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J-M


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30 Sep, 2006 8:06 am |
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Thanks for sharing these facts.
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