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20 Mar, 2007 7:53 am [sdp=83532]  
According to The iPod Observer, Apple is shipping Apple TV to customers.

Apple TV is priced at US$299, users can order Apple TV through our link and support SillyDog701.

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22 Mar, 2007 7:20 am [sdp=83619]  
According to iTWire, Apple TV will be on sale next week in Ausralia from Apple Store (online) and authorised resellers.

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23 Mar, 2007 1:46 pm [sdp=83672]  
Apple TV doesn't require a High Definition TV, according to Rogue Amoeba.

The author cited Apple's specifications, "Apple TV works with widescreen, enhanced-definition or high-definition TVs capable of 1080i, 720p, 576p, or 480p resolutions, including popular models from these manufacturers," and then proceeded to hook the Apple TV up to his Magnavox TV that has 480i component video in. And it worked.

Apple TV works with component input (not composite), and does not need a widescreen TV.

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23 Mar, 2007 1:52 pm [sdp=83674]  
How many 480i TVs actually have component inputs? Sure, you can shove 480i down a component line, but more often than not it's used for either HD or ED signals.

The only problem with hooking up a device like the Apple TV to a 480i is the readability of what's on the screen. Unless the device uses rather large text, it's going to noticeably flicker. Fine for video with subtitles, not fine for a computer.

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23 Mar, 2007 2:46 pm [sdp=83676]  
I guess you haven't used Front Row, and don't know the Large Text and simple interface they used, and you automatically assumes the text is tiny.

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23 Mar, 2007 2:54 pm [sdp=83677]  
Antony wrote:
I guess you haven't used Front Row, and don't know the Large Text and simple interface they used, and you automatically assumes the text is tiny.


Have you ever tried to read text at 576i? It's possible, but it flickers. As you might have been able to gather from his photo, the scanlines are quite visible on the text. And that's at 480i; it'd be worse on 576i, given the lower scanrate.

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23 Mar, 2007 3:09 pm [sdp=83678]  
Don_HH2K wrote:
Antony wrote:
I guess you haven't used Front Row, and don't know the Large Text and simple interface they used, and you automatically assumes the text is tiny.


Have you ever tried to read text at 576i? It's possible, but it flickers. As you might have been able to gather from his photo, the scanlines are quite visible on the text. And that's at 480i; it'd be worse on 576i, given the lower scanrate.
most CRT TV sets show scan lines, just not so noticeable when watching from a distance.

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23 Mar, 2007 3:58 pm [sdp=83679]  
Antony wrote:
most CRT TV sets show scan lines, just not so noticeable when watching from a distance.


But would you be watching it from a distance?

My TV's on my desk, right next to my laptop. That's about half a meter away from where my eyes are. On top of that my TV apparently has a grounding problem, since I get lots of picture noise (in addition to the noise I get with bad reception) when there's any Ethernet traffic on the hub next to it.

Not to mention that my TV doesn't do component video. Everything coming in from devices like the VCR or PS2 need to be converted to RF and then broadcast on Channel 3. And that would result in a considerable drop in picture quality.

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23 Mar, 2007 4:15 pm [sdp=83681]  
Don_HH2K wrote:
Antony wrote:
most CRT TV sets show scan lines, just not so noticeable when watching from a distance.


But would you be watching it from a distance?
I don't set within 50 cm when I watch TV shows/movies.

And the easy to use Apple Remote allows me to change change the shows I want to watch.

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24 Mar, 2007 6:52 pm [sdp=83719]  
I read on Slashdot just now that people are already hacking around with the Apple TV. Some guys installed Xvid, Videolan, SSH, and Perian on the thing. There's also AppleTVHacks.net, which among other things has a tutorial on how to replace the hard drive.

I remember back when the first Xbox came out and people tried to upgrade the hard drive. Microsoft had taken precautions against tampering with it, but people found ways around that. Then the second Xbox (the 360) shipped with a removable, upgradable hard drive, since so many people were doing it to begin with. Perhaps Apple might do the same with the second-gen Apple TV, since it looks like plenty of people are now going to be able to open it up and replace it anyway.

Or they may go ahead and add even more protection. Who knows.

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24 Mar, 2007 9:58 pm [sdp=83720]  
Can you add more storage to AppleTV via the USB port?

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24 Mar, 2007 11:50 pm [sdp=83721]  
Mandrake wrote:
Can you add more storage to AppleTV via the USB port?
Once the hard disk in Apple TV is full, the content will be streamed for viewing.

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25 Mar, 2007 12:07 am [sdp=83722]  
Oh, cool. So if you had lots of video content it could just be sitting on your PC or Mac. Smile

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25 Mar, 2007 12:12 am [sdp=83723]  
Mandrake wrote:
Oh, cool. So if you had lots of video content it could just be sitting on your PC or Mac. Smile


According to this Apple TV page,
Apple wrote:
If you want to watch video from another computer, you can stream it live to your TV via Apple TV. Streamed media travels over your network to your TV — without taking up space on Apple TV’s hard drive. That’s perfect for multicomputer households or when the computer you sync with has more in its iTunes library than will fit on Apple TV. Just choose up to five additional computers from the Sources menu. As long as a computer’s on your network, it can stream to your TV.


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02 Apr, 2007 2:12 pm [sdp=83872]  
I read on Slashdot that the aforementioned AppleTVHacks.net have managed to convert the Apple TV into a full-blown OS X workstation. Their site seems to be suffering from a reinstall at the moment, since an Apache test page is up.

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