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12 Jun, 2007 10:20 am [sdp=85336]  
Here are a few screenshots I took of Safari.

The customize toolbar window:

Notice the transparency of the window.

Log in dialog:


Apparently, they've implemented a Keychain feature in Safari, but I don't know where you would go to access it.

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Fulvio
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12 Jun, 2007 11:30 am [sdp=85337]  
I visted the Safari for Windows newsgroup, and found out that I am not the only one with invisible toolbars .
I will wait for some reply at the newsgroup, and chuck this monstrosity, in the meantime.
I, just, wish that there would be some way to contact their Techs, but I know that they are quite impervious to requests.

Oh, never mind. They won't let outsiders even view the posts. By the way, has anyone seen the newsgroup? There are two choices, "solved" and "contented". I have two iTunes messages which were never answered to my satisfaction.

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Dr Lobster*
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12 Jun, 2007 1:10 pm [sdp=85339]  
Antony wrote:
they stated their testing environment, which was on a Mac.


i got that bit, but what software environment? what regional settings, what service pack/patch level they were using etc etc?

i tried this on two laptops and a desktop, different levels of patching on windows and the performance was nothing near what was stated, and on one machine it didn't even work.

perhaps they are using a different build of the browser to conduct these tests than the downloadable one.

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brizziechap
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12 Jun, 2007 8:33 pm Problems? [sdp=85341]  
Hi all.

I thought I'd jump in with my maiden post re. Safari....

Been using the Win safari for a few hours. My experience:

Pros:
* Does run faster than both IE and FF
* Installed with no problems
* Memory use (compared both FF and Safari, with the 4 same tabs opened:
FF 164 528 K
Safari 41 952 k

Maybe the FF memory is high due to my numerous addons?

Cons:
No FF like addons
No roboform like equivalent

However, based on the feedback in this forum, maybe I'm just lucky.

BTW, I run an Acer laptop, 2 Ghz duo processor, 2 Gb ram, Win XP.......

Cheers,

Question Question

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James
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12 Jun, 2007 10:16 pm [sdp=85343]  
Interesting article at Wired titled: Who in their Right Mind would Run Safari on Windows?

You can read all about it here:

http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/commentary/cultofmac/2007/06/cultofmac_0612

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Gregor
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13 Jun, 2007 12:41 am [sdp=85345]  
It does not matter how hard I am trying to get this monster to work, still no luck.
Reinstalled a couple of times, menu fonts still like on picture posted before, when clicking on Bookmarks button, it crashes, every single time...
How did you guys managed this monster to work?
Is this problem related to localized Windows version?
I also put inside Apple Webkit for Windows(latest version), but in this case Safari failed to start..

Added later: Vulnerabilities already found...
Quote:
I’d like to note that we found a total of 6 bugs in an afternoon, 4 DoS and 2 remote code execution bugs. We have weaponised one of those to be reliable and its different that what Thor has found. I can’t speak for anybody else but the bugs found in the beta copy of Safari on Windows work on the production copy on OSX as well (same code base for a lot of stuff).


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Dr Lobster*
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13 Jun, 2007 7:32 am [sdp=85351]  
another interesting article:

http://blog.wired.com/monkeybites/2007/06/wired_news_benc.html

basically confirming what everybody sees, apart from apple.

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13 Jun, 2007 7:51 am [sdp=85352]  
Dr Lobster* wrote:
another interesting article:

http://blog.wired.com/monkeybites/2007/06/wired_news_benc.html

basically confirming what everybody sees, apart from apple.


apple's false PR tactic will eventually eat back in near future.

With the expanding OSX user base, apple not only putting no emphasis on security awareness of their users, but also making stupid ads tauting windows as "insecure", which basically encourage their own users NOT to care about security. This is simply stupid.

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Antony
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13 Jun, 2007 7:57 am [sdp=85353]  
An article from Australia's iTWire:
Safari: Don’t use it on Windows just yet
iTWire wrote:
Numerous reports of bugs within the beta of Apple’s latest browser, Safari 3, in both the Mac and Windows versions, make it good to play around with but not to use as your everyday browser.


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Fulvio
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13 Jun, 2007 9:36 am [sdp=85356]  
After my third separate download, and clean install, still no obvious text anywhere on the toolbars. I can navigate ok, with the given bookmarks or whatever they are, but even the apple.com page has a large gap in the middle. I was, really, excited, but after wasting two hours, I am done with it.
By the way, it crashed only once, when I tried to add a bookmark (the + icon). It just shutdown on me.

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James
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13 Jun, 2007 10:07 am [sdp=85357]  
Another interesting Wired article entitled: No Compelling Reason to Switch found here:

http://blog.wired.com/monkeybites/2007/06/review_safari_f.html

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Antony
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13 Jun, 2007 7:16 pm [sdp=85370]  
SSS wrote:
Apparently, they've implemented a Keychain feature in Safari, but I don't know where you would go to access it.

To access Keychain on a Mac, you will need to launch Keychain Access (Keychain Access.app) which is under /Applications/Utillities.

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beanboy89
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13 Jun, 2007 7:31 pm [sdp=85372]  
Antony wrote:
SSS wrote:
Apparently, they've implemented a Keychain feature in Safari, but I don't know where you would go to access it.

To access Keychain on a Mac, you will need to launch Keychain Access (Keychain Access.app) which is under /Applications/Utillities.

I think SSS is referring to Keychain on Safari for Windows.

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14 Jun, 2007 1:38 pm [sdp=85393]  
If we had a vote, I would vote to end this topic.

This thing is all over the internet, articles, blogs, whatever, with such negativity that really deserves no more attention.

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SSS
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14 Jun, 2007 4:25 pm [sdp=85397]  
Safari for Windows Public Beta got over 1 million downloads in the first 48 hours that it was available. Smile http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/06/14safari.html

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