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Antony


Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 12753 Location: Sydney, Australia
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30 Sep, 2009 1:13 am Security Essentials now available and free from Microsoft |
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Microsoft confirmed that it will make their free security software suite Security Essentials , which has been in development for almost a year, available free to all general public.
Microsoft seem really want to make sure that Windows PCs are secure and malware-free. Because if they aren't, it reflects badly on the company that many blame for the problem in the first place. Microsoft has released security software over the past few years. There are (were?) the Windows Firewall and Windows Defender, and for a long time there has been Windows Live OneCare. But the subscription-based OneCare is no more, and in its place is a free alternative that was first mooted last year under the codename Morro.
According to reports, the beta version of Security Essentials has received very positive reviews.
Well, it is free, and it might worth a try.
Security Essentials (official website)
Microsoft Security Essentials is available for Windows XP (32 bit), Windows Vista (32 bit and 64 bit), Windows 7 (32 bit and 64 bit).
Please do let us know your experience with Microsoft Security Essentials.
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iJohnE


Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 957 Location: Red Creek, NY, USA
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30 Sep, 2009 1:33 pm |
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Finally, it's released. I used it when it was in Beta, and it's one of the best security programs I've ever used.
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Mandrake


Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 3882
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30 Sep, 2009 2:00 pm |
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After using the beta for months I was prompted to upgrade yesterday. It's fantastic. I don't see why anyone would pay for anti-virus software with a free product of this quality in the market.
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iJohnE


Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 957 Location: Red Creek, NY, USA
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30 Sep, 2009 2:44 pm |
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I like how light weight it is. It's like Defender in that it does an amazing job, without interfering with how my system prefroms.
5 out of 5 stars.
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Antony


Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 12753 Location: Sydney, Australia
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30 Sep, 2009 9:50 pm |
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I downloaded it last night, and during installation (on Windows XP SP3 under Parallels Desktop for Mac), it asked me to remove another anti-virus (AVG-Free).
I turn off the AVG-Free to continue the installation.

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DJGM


Joined: 19 Jun 2002 Posts: 4371 Location: Manchester, England, UK
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01 Oct, 2009 6:29 am |
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You should never have more than one anti-virus program running simultaneously, or they conflict, and cause problems.
Turning off AVG isn't enough. You'll need to uninstall it if you want to continue using MSSE in that VM of Windows XP.
The warning message displayed in the MSSE installer summed up the potential for problems perfectly.
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James


Joined: 12 Jul 2002 Posts: 1746
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01 Oct, 2009 8:03 am |
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Not really. Many folks (including MVPs) run two anti-virus programs but make certain that one is running on demand only.
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James
It's later than you think.
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Antony


Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 12753 Location: Sydney, Australia
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01 Oct, 2009 9:49 am |
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I will give both a try with AVG-Free and Microsoft Security Essentials both installed for a while and see what happens.
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DJGM


Joined: 19 Jun 2002 Posts: 4371 Location: Manchester, England, UK
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01 Oct, 2009 10:44 am |
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Both AVG and MSSE have real-time protection engines that run in the background. Having both run at the same time on
the same Windows installation is unwise, as they will definitely cause conflicts, and possibility system stability issues.
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James


Joined: 12 Jul 2002 Posts: 1746
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01 Oct, 2009 8:14 pm |
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Antony, see if you can turn one of the real-time scanners off. Greg is correct in suggesting that there will be a conflict and a possibility of system instability.
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James
It's later than you think.
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Antony


Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 12753 Location: Sydney, Australia
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01 Oct, 2009 10:05 pm |
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Microsoft Security Essentials requires genuine Windows, which is not an issue.
However, from genuine Windows benefit page, something is clearly not fair.
For Windows XP, if you live in United States, you can get Security Essentials and Microsoft Windows Theme Nunavut. As well as free trials and savings on select MSN Games.
For those of us in Australia, the only benefit is Security Essentials.
Back to the topic of two anti-virus running.
I re-launched the Windows XP on Parallels Desktop for Mac, the real time/background scanner/protection on AVG Free and Security Essentials are running at the same time. And Windows XP is still running fine or far. I will report more if anything happens.
(Of course, I don't use the Windows XP seriously.)
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PaulD


Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 824
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01 Oct, 2009 10:52 pm |
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Does anyone have any observations, comments or experience on the SpyNet aspects, specifically on data that are sent to Microsoft, including possible personal data?
http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/privacy.aspx
See under the Resources tab, the 2nd and 5th red paragraphs.
Also a large section on Microsoft SpyNet about 55% down the page.
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James


Joined: 12 Jul 2002 Posts: 1746
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02 Oct, 2009 8:08 am |
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Spynet is not something new. Giant used to have its users send in data to make it easier for them to identify malware. Counterspy does this, Norton does this and I'm sure there are at least a dozen or so other spyware companies asking its users to opt into this. Certainly Microsoft which has been accused of so many violations would not be trying to illegally or unscrupulously gather information for its own advantages in this day and age. It seems to me that MS has done us all a very good turn with the release of this product.
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James
It's later than you think.
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Antony


Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 12753 Location: Sydney, Australia
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02 Oct, 2009 10:30 pm |
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| PaulD wrote: | Does anyone have any observations, comments or experience on the SpyNet aspects, specifically on data that are sent to Microsoft, including possible personal data?
http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/privacy.aspx
See under the Resources tab, the 2nd and 5th red paragraphs.
Also a large section on Microsoft SpyNet about 55% down the page. | Thank you for pointing this out, Paul.
| Microsoft wrote: | When we need information that personally identifies you or allows us to contact you, we will explicitly ask you for it. In the case of Microsoft SpyNet, by accepting this privacy statement, you agree to send reports to Microsoft (see below). The personal information that we collect from you will be used by Microsoft and its controlled subsidiaries and affiliates to provide the service(s) or carry out the transaction(s) you have requested or authorized ...
... As a “basic” member of SpyNet, Microsoft Security Essentials will automatically send information to Microsoft to help Microsoft determine which software to investigate for potential threats and to help improve Microsoft Security Essentials' effectiveness. |
It seems like the information about your computer will be sent to Microsoft, and you would only be asked when Microsoft thinks that information is personally identifiable. I am sure that it's highly likely that there will be other information which can be personally identifiable but does not get flagged by Microsoft.
If I read it correctly, you won't be able to control what data being sent to Microsoft except being asked occasionally?
I guess Microsoft should let users know what information will be sent, as well as giving users opinions not to submit data.
| James wrote: | Certainly Microsoft which has been accused of so many violations would not be trying to illegally or unscrupulously gather information for its own advantages in this day and age. It seems to me that MS has done us all a very good turn with the release of this product. |
I agree with you James.
BTW, have Paul Thurrott and Leo Laporte commented on Security Essentials? Praised on Security Essentials I meant.
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James


Joined: 12 Jul 2002 Posts: 1746
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02 Oct, 2009 11:40 pm |
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Antony, check out Security Now Oct. 1st with Laporte and Gibson. They discuss MSE. You'll find it in the column to the right here: http://twit.tv/
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James
It's later than you think.
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