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Al
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19 Dec, 2004 11:39 pm [sdp=49583]  

Postive??? I've sended tons of negative comments!

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21 Dec, 2004 7:15 am [sdp=49631]  

Al wrote:
Postive??? I've [sent] tons of negative comments!
I sent a lot of positive comments and suggestions.

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21 Dec, 2004 9:57 am I did too [sdp=49632]  

Antony wrote:
Al wrote:
Postive??? I've [sent] tons of negative comments!
I sent a lot of positive comments and suggestions.


Even though it is a little buggy yet, I like the look and feel of the new browser. I use it all the time. For those IE haters......Live with it! I have used IE since 2.0. It is what 90% of the world grew up on. To have a page "view like IE" is a plus for NS, not a slam. This browser is now smarter than others. Smarter because it knows when to give people a choice and at the same time, keeping IE within the Netscape Logo! Not the other way around. I see nothing wrong with the interface. It is very good looking and easy to use. No it is not perfect. But what browser is? It is a prototype, not a bullseye target for people to bash for stupid selfish reasons...oh I hate the color, Oh it's too busy, Oh, how dare they use IE.

I say bravo to the new designers. Keep up the great work!

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Fulvio
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21 Dec, 2004 9:59 am [sdp=49633]  

Antony wrote:
Al wrote:
Postive??? I've [sent] tons of negative comments!
I sent a lot of positive comments and suggestions.


I, fully, agree with you. I don't think that many negative functions should be isent , especially with the very first build, and mainly because the users do not find it up to their specs. The negative critics may be partly correct. But I want something which works, more than anything else

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Al
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21 Dec, 2004 1:25 pm [sdp=49641]  

I'm still not pleased with the IE feature, can someone tell ,me what is the file for the IE engine in NS prototype

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Andrew T.
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21 Dec, 2004 2:38 pm [sdp=49642]  

cyberguy wrote:
For those IE haters......Live with it! I have used IE since 2.0. It is what 90% of the world grew up on.
Although this is almost nitpicking, I would dispute that claim. Many of us first accessed the world wide web in the mid-to-late '90s, and the most popular web browser through the mid-to-late '90s was Netscape Navigator. I started out with Netscape 1.0 myself.

I respect the opinions of users who are indeed happy with the performance, appearance, or features of the Netscape Browser prototype. No one is being forced to use the browser, and in the end it will provide users with more choices. That said, I'm more than happy using the regular version of Mozilla Firefox myself. As previously mentioned, no browser is perfect, although Firefox IMO comes incredibly close.

Al wrote:
I'm still not pleased with the IE feature, can someone tell ,me what is the file for the IE engine in NS prototype
As previously stated, the "View as IE" feature depends on the file npTrident.dll (in the browser's Plugins folder) to function, and depends upon the Windows/IE mshtml.dll file for rendering.

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Al
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21 Dec, 2004 3:08 pm [sdp=49643]  

SO I can just delete that.

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Gregor
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22 Dec, 2004 1:11 am [sdp=49677]  

Al wrote:
SO I can just delete that.

It might be better to move it. You can always move it back, for the least for Windowsupdate service!

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Alice
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22 Dec, 2004 3:23 am [sdp=49682]  

marcoos wrote:
To remove the "Display as IE" option, just go to the C:\Program Files\Netscape\Netscape Browser\plugins directory and remove the file npTrident.dll
<snip>
Or better move it somewhere else for backup reasons. Smile

If you do it, the options "Display as IE" will still be visible, but will have no effect (so everything will be safely rendered by Gecko, even if you set it to be rendered by IE).

To get the "Display as IE" back, just move the npTrident.dll back to the Netscape Browser\plugins directory.


The easiest way to disable the "Display as IE" feature is to simply rename the file to XnpTrident.dll. To re-enable the feature, rename it back to npTrident.dll.

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Al
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22 Dec, 2004 1:46 pm [sdp=49699]  

Gregor wrote:
Al wrote:
SO I can just delete that.

It might be better to move it. You can always move it back, for the least for Windows update service!

IE service chases, so that is why i disabled it

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Fulvio
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23 Dec, 2004 3:10 pm A question about playing streaming media [sdp=49764]  

I found out that a number of PBS station stream in more than one format, and, invariably the Windows Media format does not work, although it is possible to save link as...., or use a different format, which I usually do.
But, I noticed that the Prototype works. The plugins folder has only the Acrobat , and two quicktime files, beside the much maligned Trident file.
So, I borrowed the Prototype file, and plunked it into the NS7.2 plugins folder. Guess what? It is enough to allow NS7.2 open the link to WMP!

It works in Moz1.7.5, and FF1.0, as well.
I have had to download the link with at least three station which use .asx format, i.e. KUT-FM, KBYU-FM and the local KVNO-FM. Now, WMP opens directly. Beethoven.com uses .wmx format and it works fine, also.

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ryaxnb
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25 Dec, 2004 12:06 am [sdp=49821]  

DJGM wrote:


It has to be said . . . if that's the default theme, it is absolutely, totally and utterly hideous!

It's not that bad.

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Fulvio
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27 Dec, 2004 10:29 am [sdp=49968]  

ryaxnb wrote:
DJGM wrote:


It has to be said . . . if that's the default theme, it is absolutely, totally and utterly hideous!

It's not that bad.


You know, some people will not like it for many reasons, but mainly because it is not what was expected, i.e. a clone of Firefox. Of all things, the theme is the last thing which concerns me. I barely look at any theme.

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goGecko
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27 Dec, 2004 4:00 pm [sdp=49976]  

ryaxnb wrote:
DJGM wrote:


It has to be said . . . if that's the default theme, it is absolutely, totally and utterly hideous!

It's not that bad.


I actually like the theme. Very Happy

I hope that it is included with the final release.

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Al
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27 Dec, 2004 6:39 pm [sdp=49982]  

Look back a few pages and you'll learn that the theme used by NS Nav 0.5.6+ and the final screenie is a lot different

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