SillyDog701

[humpd]

yankee1620: I do not know why you are not getting saved mail when you upgrade SeaMonkey. I do this for my wife all the time and she gets all of her saved mail. Do you have SeaMonkey located in a different location than the default location or do you save your profiles in a different location rather than the default? Even if you do, you seem to be saying that the old profiles are there but that you cannot access old (saved) email. Just for the heck of it, install Thunderbird and see what happens. TB has an import feature and it will ask you what you want to import. See if it imports all the saved email. If it does, then SeaMonkey should do the same thing. Another thought is to delete all of the >MSF files (and ONLY MSF files) in your mail folder in SeaMonkey (like Inbox.MSF) and then let SeaMonkey rebuild those files. You might get all of the read mail back but it may list them as unread. Its worth a shot.

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[yankee1620]

"I do not know why you are not getting saved mail when you upgrade SeaMonkey. I do this for my wife all the time and she gets all of her saved mail." Fulvio

HOW does she get it???

"TB has an import feature and it will ask you what you want to import. See if it imports all the saved email. If it does, then SeaMonkey should do the same thing." Fulvio

HOW does Seamonkey import it??? It has *never, never imported anything!! There is no import feature for profiles in Seamonkey.

Also, I do not want Thunderbird...I do not want my email going to Thunderbird. I tried it once and hated it...all it had was an inbox and trash...nothing else.And it did NOT import anything either...
Seamonkey works fine, it just does not import anything!!! It has never imported my profiles any time I upgraded even though you say it does. Maybe it does for you, but it has *never imported anything for me...never! It never asks if I want it to import profiles. I really don't know what you are talking about when you say you imported your wife's profiles. I don't know what you mean by msf files.

Edward said this..."when an old version of SeaMonkey is uninstalled and a new version installed, the new version should automatically import the profile (mail accounts, settings, etc.) that was created with the prior version, as it knows where to look for the profile directory."
Notice that he says *automatically*. Automatically? Where? How?? It has *never imported anything when I have upgraded!

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[Fulvio]

"I do not know why you are not getting saved mail when you upgrade SeaMonkey. I do this for my wife all the time and she gets all of her saved mail." Fulvio

It was not me.

"TB has an import feature and it will ask you what you want to import. See if it imports all the saved email. If it does, then SeaMonkey should do the same thing." Fulvio

It was not me, either.

As I said before, there is no "import" of mail. I gave a link before on how to create a profile, which include how to get old mail in it.
You have two choices, one is to install the program, and let it open whatever it sees it. I don't like that because if the program is different from the earlier one there may be some conflict in the preference file. So, I create a new profile, into which I copy/paste files which can be copy/pasted, and rename the Inbox, in particular to avoid overwriting.
This thread has gotten completely out of control, including misquoting. I asked Ramona, if she is available, to try to restore some order.

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[yankee1620]

Sorry, Fulvio...it was humpd that I quoted...I am so used to seeing your replies that I just wasn't paying attention.
However, you are correct about the thread getting out of hand and all I have managed so far is to get thoroughly confused...
So I just accept the fact that my mail is lost and upgrading will just make me lose more, so I will stick to 1.1.3 forever....
BTW...I am not a *he* LOL...

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[Edward]

Edward said this..."when an old version of SeaMonkey is uninstalled and a new version installed, the new version should automatically import the profile (mail accounts, settings, etc.) that was created with the prior version, as it knows where to look for the profile directory."
Notice that he says *automatically*. Automatically? Where? How?? It has *never imported anything when I have upgraded!

When you upgraded to a new version of SeaMonkey, once you opened Mail & News, if your e-mail account (or accounts) is/are listed, then SM successfully found the profile. Once you click Inbox under the account name, your e-mails should be listed on the right side of the screen, clicking any one of them will display it below.

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[Edward]

Edward...no I don't lose profiles...The profiles and the backed up profiles are still there and I have lost mail on three different hard drives...so it is not a problem with the hard drive.
The mail is still there but it opens in notepad and is impossible to read with all the extra material in it.
I have tried pasting the mail into the new profile but then all that shows up in the new seamonkey is a new folder with a lot of question marks but no messages.
Seamonkey has never *automatically* imported any profiles.

Regarding Notepad, are you going straight to the profile directory and trying to open e-mails from there? If so, you should not do that. That might be the cause of your e-mail problems.

SeaMonkey and/or Thunderbird should be the applications that would open the e-mail depending on what you are using, not Notepad.

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[PaulD]

Observations: Dixie is not as deeply into these products as some are, and I think that the terminology is throwing sliders that she is not ready for. 'Import' can have several interpretations. 'Profile' has shifted meanings in the course of NS4-and-later-products progressions. 'Account' can be confusing. Her deep fear is of losing emails (again!). If her SM program / profile / Registry settings are inconsistent then unpredictable results are to be expected. We must accept that she is not seeing any offer or opportunity to pick up existing objects: profile, email, etc. And it is not clear how she can 're-activate' the archived email files.

This thread was started by Fred, concerning SM and mail and Picasa.
Dixie, I propose that you initiate a new thread, and we'll try to take it with slow pitches, one small topic at a time. That is, if you have the time, energy and enthusiasm to get into the batter's box again, to stretch the analogy. I think that by nibbling at the problems individually instead of trying to solve them all at once that some progress can be made.

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[Fulvio]

Dixie, I propose that you initiate a new thread

Agreed 100%. The thread had gotten to be so so long that it is impossible to follow it. In my opinion there are a lot of misunderstandings. That's why I had brought up the question, never answered, if SM1.1.3 mail was working.

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[yankee1620]

Seamonkey 1.1.3 was working correctly until this morning when it began to do strange things. I have not changed anything at all.
When I delete mail it does not delete. Instead the messages go back to the top and I have to scroll down to the message again to delete it. Mail that always went to a filtered folder now goes to the folder and also to the inbox so that I have the same message in two dufferent places.
And once a popup appeared that said something about messages being *truncated* and to delete inbox.msf...it did not help.
I don't know why it started doing this all of a sudden.
I give up and will probably have to use OE which is a horrible browser and I know nothing about it, but I don't know how to fix Seamonkey.

Also, things that I mentioned before were taken completely out of context...for instance I never said that I used notepad to read my email!!
I would start another thread but I am not sure what to call it and what to say.
I have just about given up because it has become so confusing.

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[Fulvio]

It is confusing to us,because almost all problems you have are unfamiliar to us.
It does not mean that they are not real problems, but due to something which was done to the preferences. For instance, the truncated mail message is almost certainly due to the fact that the setting:in Edit|Prefs|Mail and News|Offline and Disk Space is checked. It is not checked by default, but it can be enabled to reduce clutter in mail. I don't like it, because it makes people unaware of the fact that it is imperative to compact folders (file-->compact) to remove any mail which is still associated with the Inbox, though deleted. Eventually, everything goes awire, if these precautions are not followed.
Default is View|Sort|Ascending, which is dumb, because you want to see the most recent messages. So, click on Descending. I don't use filters, but you should check Check|Message Filters from Mail. All these things, if true, do not happen all in a sudden, but may be due to unintentional clicking. Even if one of my guesses is right, Outlook Express will not help.

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[derfberger]

[quote="humpd"]derfberger: My wife uses SeaMonkey and there is, indeed, a little mail icon in the bottom left corner for the browser screen: second from the left.


I think i know what you mean as N S 7.2 has a small mail icon in the tool bar.

But there is no icon for mail in Monkey, No problem i go to window in the tool bar and open mail and news groups



If you deleted your old NS mail setup, y

I didn't but now N S won't let me in, wants a user profile

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[Fulvio]

But there is no icon for mail in Monkey, No problem i go to window in the tool bar and open mail and news groups

If you deleted your old NS mail setup, y
didn't but now N S won't let me in, wants a user profile

Part 1 is true, if you go to the Window button. As for the no icon, do you have anything else in what is called Status Bar (see if it is checked View|Toolbars.
You should have five icons to the left, and may have two more on the right.
I have no idea what you are saying in the second sentence.

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