SillyDog701

[DJGM]

It has to be said, that there aren't many more sickening crimes than evil yobs attacking old people.
Have a look at this latest case of an elderly lady being severly beaten up and robbed. I ought to
warn you though that you're likely to find the picture in the news article quite upsetting.

Basically, a disabled 97 year old lady, that has only one arm, was attacked and robbed in her
flat in the Longsight district of Manchester. The evil b*st*rd responsible for this disgusting
crime, stole an estimated £1000, that she was saving for her grandchildren.

In my personal opinion, in cases like this, the punishment should fit the crime. If and
when the thug that beat up and robbed this old lady is caught, he should receive a
extremely severe punishment beating. Prison is too good for such evil scum.

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[Antony]

A 14-year-old boy was arrested after the attack, but has since been released on police bail pending inquiries.

That's a bit too easy.

Laws are too kind to youngsters.

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[Mandrake]

They certainly are left off with next to no punishment. Should the punishment fit the crime? An interesting question, girls should certainly not follow that rule, however boys could do with some good old fashioned discipline IMHO. Attacking a defenseless 97 year old lady is despicable, then this boy gets away on bail!

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[Edward]

Echoing what Antony said, that is how it is in most jurisdictions. Depending on the crime, if a juvenile commits a certain crime, they can be held in a juvenile detention house up until the time they reach the age of 18 or 21, and can sometimes be held longer depending on the crime that was committed.

EDIT:

In the event of a murder charge, there is the possibility that the juvenile can be tried as an adult.

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[Antony]

Recall from my memory, early this year, one young boy who was under 18 or 16 (can't remember), he alighted (or alit) bushes in NSW. Australia is famous for its bush fires during Summer times, and the boy just had a costly idea for his fun.

The result? That arsonist said he was sorry, and paid a few thousand dollars. That was all.
There were families lost their entire life of memories and savings.

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[lovetogarden]

Disgusting, isn't it?! In the US today we had a case of a 6 year old girl who didn't like her teacher. She made cookies at home and put a pesticide in it and gave it to her teacher. The teacher didn't eat it but all the classmates did and got deathly ill. Fortunately, they will be alright. But that a 6 year old could think of something like this is amazing. Most peoples' response to this was 'Oh, she's just a little girl'. If she is doing this kind of thing at 6, I wonder what she'll be up to at 10, or older. Gives me goosebumps just thinking about it!
In the US we call our system 'Criminal Justice', which is correct - it is justice for the criminals and not much for the victims.

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[Antony]

Death sentence to that 6 year old girl, if I were the ruler.

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[Wellander]

A 14-year-old boy was arrested after the attack, but has since been released on police bail pending inquiries.

That's a bit too easy.

Laws are too kind to youngsters.

Hi,
I agree with you.
And punishement should fit the crime.

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[Lorraine]

That six year old little girl, evidently fell through the cracks. How many of you have seen such a mean child? I bet none of you have.
I would say that she was evidently not brought up very well. I don't think any child is born evil, not when you see such sweet innocent babies in hospital nurseries. Perhaps some have a mental disorder and just are not looked after. That's too bad for society.

I think a 6 year old can be rehabilitated in a loving home.

You are all too cruel

Perhaps a 14 year old can also be corrected. Unless you try, you will never know. I think children of this age should be given a chance and have a therapist find out what the problem is.

I myself had five or six 14-16 yr. old boys jump on my car while I was at a stop sign. My doors were locked, windows locked too, and I was just around the corner from where I live. I didn't know any of those kids. Well, one had his hand made to look like a gun, you know how you point your index finger and pretend to shoot, well that's what he was doing in my window. This is a quiet neighbourhood too.
After waving them away, they just stayed, I just gunned my car, oh boy, I didn't look back but immediately called 911 and reported it. I don't know if the police even saw them or if anyone got hurt falling or jumping off my car.

They were just out to scare little old ladies, I think

-Lorraine

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[Mandrake]

I don't think killing six year old children will help much, but certainly some sort of rehabilitation is needed for that girl.

Lorraine, do they honestly do that? Next they will come down to your car with water guns and try to scare you

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[Antony]

If I were the ruler, the six year old girl would have death sentence and the fourteen year old boy would have torture to near death then a public execution.

This is for the sake of precedent, and a safe community. This is to educate public and to teach those "evil" kids not to believe they will get over the law because of underage. This is also to stop organisations trying to organise youngsters to perform very serious criminal activities.
The law is clearly not to encourage (or even just allow) those youngsters to do something harmful before they reach 16 or 18. That is, if I were the ruler.

Okay, I might be cruel, but I do have a point. We need tougher laws to build a safe community.

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[Mandrake]

I can agree that the death penalty serves a useful purpose, especially for people that commit sexual crimes and commit murder, or beating little old ladies. Death penalty is for very severe crimes only. For that 14 year old boy, a public flogging then execution is appropriate. Attacking innocent old ladies is not right, especially when he could have just taken the money without touching her. Of course, girls should be exempt from torture/floggings IMHO.

I'm not exactly sure what I'd do to that girl, although killing her wouldn't solve much.

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[Lorraine]

Mandrake wrote:

Lorraine, do they honestly do that? Next they will come down to your car with water guns and try to scare you

Yes they sure did do that to me, scared the hell out of me too. It was at 5:00PM on my way home from playing bridge. Nothing like that had ever happened to me before. Water guns, I think perhaps real guns next time!!
I'm a fast draw!

[I should have screamed, "Now, what would Jarad do?"]
The last line is from a commercial on TV where I live....lol


Antony wrote:

Okay, I might be cruel, but I do have a point. We need tougher laws to build a safe community.

I think they should pass laws, that would punish the parents as well as trying to save the children, from a life in prison. Parents should know what children are doing! Where were the parents?

I know, some kids are really bad, but it's because they haven't been taught or are from disfunctional families, most of the time anyway.
Some are just trying to see what they can do to irk adults.

-Lorraine

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[Lorraine]

Antony wrote:

If I were the ruler, the six year old girl would have death sentence and the fourteen year old boy would have torture to near death then a public execution.

I can't believe you wrote that Antony, you seem to be so quiet. I guess it's true that you have to watch the quiet ones!!!

I don't believe in the death penalty. Never have and I never will. Why do you want to torture a 14 yr old and then execute him?
You sound like you just want revenge. I really think that anyone that would do something like in the above mention posts are sick people and really do need to be looked after.

Are you sure you are not that guy they are looking for in Iraq? I think he must be number 1 on the deck of cards...his name starts with an 'S' tho'

-Lorraine

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[Antony]

Antony wrote:

If I were the ruler, the six year old girl would have death sentence and the fourteen year old boy would have torture to near death then a public execution.

I can't believe you wrote that Antony, you seem to be so quiet. I guess it's true that you have to watch the quiet ones!!!

Lorraine, you missed my point. We need tough laws.

If there were no punishment (or just very little) to that six year old girl, wouldn't that simply suggest/hint/indicate (or whatsoever) the girl's classmates to retaliate as long as they were underaged?

This is not taking revenge, but for a fair sociality and public education. Who can anyone guarantee the classmates were poisoned won't plot retaliations for revenge?

Laws are not suppose to give youngsters not to hold responsibilities.

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