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STOP code when Norton is scanning

Postby Wai_Wai » Sun 26 Dec, 2004 1:12 am

STOP code when Norton is scanning (?) [ver 2]
System Info:
- Wins XP Pro SP1
- Norton SystemWorks 2005 (including Utilities, Anti-Virus, CleanSweep)

============================================================================

The case is rather complex. I don't know if it is really related to Norton Anti-virus, or its other components, or even my hardware. Anyway the case is as follows:

Memtest told me my computer failed
Recently I ran memtest86 v3.1a (http://www.memtest86.com/). I found some errors in test 5 and 8. In fact, I could sometimes pass all tests with no errors, but sometimes not.

I wonder the following components are faulty:
- RAM (Kingmax DDR400 512MB*2. I got 2 RAM of the same brand and module)
- Motherboard (Asus A7N8X-X, non-deluxe one)
..<-- In fact I got A7N8X-VM/400 previously. But due to compatibility issues with my RAM said by Asus distributor, I exchanged this with A7N8X-X.
- Display card (Asus Radeon a9200se)

Additional Info about my system
- My sound card is on-board.
- My display card is on AGP.
- I only use one PCI, ie Ethernet network 10/100Mbps card.
- I don't have any USB or SCSI hard drive to my computer.
- I never overclock anything
- IRQ issue: Asus technicans once said the sharing nature of IRQ is not a problem when we are using Wins XP. I don’t know if they are correct.


Use programs to pinpoint the cause of trouble!!
Then I decided to run other stability/stress/benchmark tests. The programs I ran were:
- 3d mark 2001 SE (Passed. 4100-4300 marks. I've run for several times.)
- 3d mark 03 (Passed. 631 mark)
- Mother Monitor 5.3.7.0 (Below 50 degree. Voltage is stable.)
- Prime95 23.8.1
(http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm)
[Blend-mode stress test, with custom RAM usage (750-800MB). I've run for 3 times:
1st - 2 hrs. 1 error: 6BC84F91, expected E91EEB5A
2nd - 9 hrs. STOP code: [tt]DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (d1)[/tt]. Details shown in next paragraph
3rd - 5 hrs. No error.]


How did the STOP code occur
It was the second time I ran Prime95. The programs I was running at that time:
- Norton Anti-virus 2005 (Scheduled full-system virus scan)
- Zone Alarm 5.5
- Prime 95 23.8.1
- Motherboard Monitor 5.3.7.0
- Yahoo Messenger &/or ICQ (Not sure if I was running either, or both)
- Windows Messenger (It just stayed i the system tray, and couldn't turn off. I didn't use it at all)

The PF usage: about 0.96GB (I got 1GB RAM)

When Norton scheduled full-system virus scan had been run for about 30 mins, a STOP code [tt]DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (d1)[/tt] occurred. A full memory dump was generated. I used Windows debugging tools to check the dump file. The analysis is at the end of my post.

Q:
Does anyone know which causes the problems of the memtest errors, and the STOP code?
Is it possible for a faulty driver to cause my computer failed to pass all memory tests in memtest?

Tell me if you need more information. :)


Memory Dump Analysis
[qutoe]Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

BugCheck D1, {ff4d8d4e, 2, 0, ff4d8d4e}

*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found. Defaulted
to export symbols for SYMTDI.SYS -
Probably caused by : SYMTDI.SYS (
SYMTDI!DisconnectTCPSession+1da9 )[/quote]

Message edited by Admin, unnecessary portion of the Memory Dump Analysis output omit.
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Postby Antony » Sun 26 Dec, 2004 9:11 am

You said your memtest told you your computer failed. It means your memory is faulty.

Borrowing a post from CNet Forums
This can be caused by many things; hardware such as bad memory, motherboard ,etc., and software and drivers that are not compatible.


You might want to check Stop 0x000000D1 or DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (Microsoft)
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Postby Wai_Wai » Sun 26 Dec, 2004 9:52 am

Additional Info
I hope my additional information and analysis will give us some clues

I found the following part of info in my Memory Dump Analysis Report interesting:
*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found. Defaulted
to export symbols for SYMTDI.SYS -
Probably caused by : SYMTDI.SYS (
SYMTDI!DisconnectTCPSession+1da9 )



From the above, it might be suggesting it is Symtdi.sys which causes the problem.

Info about Symtdi.sys
File Name: Symtdi.sys
File Company: Symantec Corporation
File Description: Network Dispatch Driver

I’m using Norton SystemWorks 2005 (including Utilities, Anti-Virus, CleanSweep)
I just have no ideas what the network dispatch driver is, and its use? Does anyone know?
What should I do if this drive is incompatible?

Decision to completely remove Norton
I would like to completely remove this program because it is becoming really annoying recently. This program continues making troubles. The last time I got problems with Norton was when I upgraded to Wins XP Pro SP2. Norton Anti-virus suddenly couldn’t startup anymore (even after I installed all Norton updates!).

Before removing it, I have to find substitutes. Does anyone have good recommendations relating to:
- Anti-virus
- File Recovery
Requirement:
-- I would like it to work like what Norton Utilities do
-- It will backup all deleted files, items, entries etc.
-- I can tell the program how long I should keep the file
-- It has an exclusion list, so I can exclude some file types or folders which I don’t wish to backup
- Wipe File Permanently
-- so I can safely delete a file which cannot be recovered forever
- Installation Monitor
Requirement:
-- Can record changes made during installation (eg provide snapshots before/after installation);
-- Can remove installed files and reg.
-- Can undo changes made to (overwritten) files/dll/reg etc.
NB: Norton CleanSweep is limited. It cannot really undo a lot of changes. If a file is being overwritten/updated. There’s no way for cleanSweep to help me with that. And I sometimes spotted the program deleting wrong files (and it says it is safe to delete. It is not indeed!)



Additional Info about my computer
- My sound card is on-board.
- My display card is on AGP.
- I only use one PCI, ie Ethernet network 10/100Mbps card.
- I don't have any USB or SCSI hard drive to my computer.
- I never overclock anything
- IRQ issue: Asus technicans once said the sharing nature of IRQ is not a problem when we are using Wins XP. I don’t know if they are correct.
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Postby Antony » Sun 26 Dec, 2004 9:55 am

My guess,

Try take out one of the RAM, and run the programme again.

then try another RAM, and see if the same problem occurs.
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Postby Wai_Wai » Sun 26 Dec, 2004 10:16 am

Antony wrote:My guess,

Try take out one of the RAM, and run the programme again.

then try another RAM, and see if the same problem occurs.


OK. I'm going to try soon.
But it will take me another day to run 1 full test.
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STOP code when Norton is scanning (?) [ver 3]

Postby Wai_Wai » Sun 26 Dec, 2004 1:16 pm

STOP code when Norton is scanning (?) [ver 3]
System Info:
- Wins XP Pro SP1
- Norton SystemWorks 2005 (including Utilities, Anti-Virus, CleanSweep)

============================================================================

The case is rather complex. I don't know if it is really related to Norton Anti-virus, or its other components, or even my hardware. Anyway the case is as follows:

Memtest told me my computer failed
Recently I ran memtest86 v3.1a ([L=http://www.memtest86.com/)]http://www.memtest86.com/)[/L]. I found some errors in test 5 and 8. In fact, I could sometimes pass all tests with no errors, but sometimes not.

I wonder the following components are faulty:
- RAM (Kingmax DDR400 512MB*2. I got 2 RAM of the same brand and module)
- Motherboard (Asus A7N8X-X, non-deluxe one)
..<-- In fact I got A7N8X-VM/400 previously. But due to compatibility issues with my RAM said by Asus distributor, I exchanged this with A7N8X-X.
- Display card (Asus Radeon a9200se)

Additional Info about my system
- My sound card is on-board.
- My display card is on AGP.
- I only use one PCI, ie Ethernet network 10/100Mbps card.
- I don't have any USB or SCSI hard drive to my computer.
- I never overclock anything
- IRQ issue: Asus technicans once said the sharing nature of IRQ is not a problem when we are using Wins XP. I don’t know if they are correct.


Use programs to pinpoint the cause of trouble!!
Then I decided to run other stability/stress/benchmark tests. The programs I ran were:
- 3d mark 2001 SE (Passed. 4100-4300 marks. I've run for several times.)
- 3d mark 03 (Passed. 631 mark)
- Mother Monitor 5.3.7.0 (Below 50 degree. Voltage is stable.)
- Prime95 23.8.1
([L=http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm)]http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm)[/L]
[Blend-mode stress test, with custom RAM usage (750-800MB). I've run for 3 times:
1st - 2 hrs. 1 error: 6BC84F91, expected E91EEB5A
2nd - 9 hrs. STOP code: DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (d1). Details shown in next paragraph
3rd - 5 hrs. No error.]


How did the STOP code occur
It was the second time I ran Prime95. The programs I was running at that time:
- Norton Anti-virus 2005 (Scheduled full-system virus scan)
- Zone Alarm 5.5
- Prime 95 23.8.1
- Motherboard Monitor 5.3.7.0
- Yahoo Messenger &/or ICQ (Not sure if I was running either, or both)
- Windows Messenger (It just stayed i the system tray, and couldn't turn off. I didn't use it at all)

The PF usage: about 0.96GB (I got 1GB RAM)

When Norton scheduled full-system virus scan had been run for about 30 mins, a STOP code DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (d1) occurred. A full memory dump was generated. I used Windows debugging tools to check the dump file. The analysis is at the end of my post.

Q:
Does anyone know which causes the problems of the memtest errors, and the STOP code?
Is it possible for a faulty driver to cause my computer failed to pass all memory tests in memtest?

Tell me if you need more information. :)


Memory Dump Analysis
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.4.0004.4
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights
reserved.


Loading Dump File [C:\WINDOWS\MEMORY.DMP]
Kernel Complete Dump File: Full address space is
available

Symbol search path is:
SRV*c:\symbols*[L=http://msdl.microsoft.com/down...ols;C:/WINDOWS/Symbols]http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;C:/WINDOWS/Symbols[/L]
Executable search path is:
Windows XP Kernel Version 2600 (Service Pack 1) UP
Free x86 compatible
Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS
Built by: 2600.xpsp2.040919-1003
Kernel base = 0x804d5000 PsLoadedModuleList =
0x80550dd0
Debug session time: Fri Dec 24 21:11:06.593 2004
(GMT+8)
System Uptime: 0 days 11:24:52.197
Loading Kernel Symbols
.............................................................................................................................
Loading unloaded module list
................
Loading User Symbols
*******************************************************************************
*
*
* Bugcheck Analysis
*
*
*
*******************************************************************************

Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

BugCheck D1, {ff4d8d4e, 2, 0, ff4d8d4e}

*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found. Defaulted
to export symbols for SYMTDI.SYS -
Probably caused by : SYMTDI.SYS (
SYMTDI!DisconnectTCPSession+1da9 )

Followup: MachineOwner
---------

kd> !analyze -v
*******************************************************************************
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*
* Bugcheck Analysis
*
*
*
*******************************************************************************

DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (d1)
An attempt was made to access a pageable (or
completely invalid) address at an
interrupt request level (IRQL) that is too high. This
is usually
caused by drivers using improper addresses.
If kernel debugger is available get stack backtrace.
Arguments:
Arg1: ff4d8d4e, memory referenced
Arg2: 00000002, IRQL
Arg3: 00000000, value 0 = read operation, 1 = write
operation
Arg4: ff4d8d4e, address which referenced memory

Debugging Details:
------------------


READ_ADDRESS: ff4d8d4e Nonpaged pool

CURRENT_IRQL: 2

FAULTING_IP:
+ffffffffff4d8d4e
ff4d8d4e ?? ???

DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: DRIVER_FAULT

BUGCHECK_STR: 0xD1

LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from 084df1d9 to 8052ee23

SYMBOL_ON_RAW_STACK: 1

STACK_TEXT:
f7c72c98 084df1d9 0000000a f74d8d4e 00000002
nt!KeBugCheckEx+0x19
WARNING: Frame IP not in any known module. Following
frames may be wrong.
f7c72cb4 862e6af8 002e6af8 862e6af8 ffc72ce0 0x84df1d9
ff00005f 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0x862e6af8


STACK_COMMAND: dds @$csp ; kb

FAILED_INSTRUCTION_ADDRESS:
+ffffffffff4d8d4e
ff4d8d4e ?? ???

FOLLOWUP_IP:
SYMTDI!DisconnectTCPSession+1da9
b2f7ba38 55 push ebp

FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner

SYMBOL_NAME: SYMTDI!DisconnectTCPSession+1da9

MODULE_NAME: SYMTDI

IMAGE_NAME: SYMTDI.SYS

DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 41705aad

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:
0xD1_CODE_AV_BAD_IP_SYMTDI!DisconnectTCPSession+1da9

BUCKET_ID:
0xD1_CODE_AV_BAD_IP_SYMTDI!DisconnectTCPSession+1da9

Followup: MachineOwner
---------
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


IRQ Table
[IRQ]
Resources---Device---Status
IRQ 0 System Clock OK
-
-
IRQ 3 [Ã
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Postby Antony » Sun 26 Dec, 2004 3:31 pm

Note, please use [tt]quote[/tt] and [tt]/quote[/tt] to quote other people's message to make the thread easier to read. and please do not quote the entire message from programme such as memory analysis, just the important port would do.
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Postby Wai_Wai » Mon 27 Dec, 2004 9:43 am

I have tested one of my RAM only today.
I only inserted 1 RAM in DIMM and run memtest86 v3.1a
No error so far.
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Postby Antony » Mon 27 Dec, 2004 10:16 am

Good. please try another RAM.
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Postby Wai_Wai » Mon 27 Dec, 2004 10:24 am

Antony wrote:Good. please try another RAM.


Sure, I will try it this night hopefully.
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Postby Wai_Wai » Tue 28 Dec, 2004 10:04 am

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STOP code when Norton is scanning (?) [ver 4]
Basic System Info:
- Wins XP Pro SP1
- Norton SystemWorks 2005 (including Utilities, Anti-Virus, CleanSweep)

============================================================================

The case is rather complex. I don't know if it is really related to Norton Anti-virus, or its other components, or even my hardware.

It is very long. Look for the bold heading to spot out the information useful to you, or you can ask me about the relevant info and I will quote for you. Anyway the case is as follows:


Memtest told me my computer failed
Recently I ran memtest86 v3.1a (http://www.memtest86.com/). I found some errors in some tests. The details are as follows:

Test 1: RAM A in DIMM1
I have run memtest for several times.
No error.

Test 2: RAM B in DIMM1
I have run memtest for several times.
No error.

Test 3: RAM A in DIMM2, RAM B in DIMM3
I have run memtest for several times.
Errors were sometimes detected, sometimes not.
Errors were found in test 5. 2-4 errors were once found, ranging from 996-1021MB
Errors were found in test 8. 2 errors were once found, in 1002.8 and 1017.3MB respectively.

Test 4: RAM B in DIMM2, RAM A in DIMM3
I have run memtest once.
Errors were detected!
Errors were found in test 10. 9 errors were found, ranging from 535-723MB.

From the above results, what implications could we draw?
I don't think the problems lies on DIMM slots, or it should give rise to a lot of errors, right?

I just don't know whether my RAM are faulty or not.
Should I ask the manufacturer for RAM replacement?


Info about my system

I wonder the following components are faulty:
- RAM (Kingmax DDR400 512MB*2. I got 2 RAM of the same brand and module)
- Motherboard (Asus A7N8X-X, non-deluxe one)
..<-- In fact I got A7N8X-VM/400 previously. But due to compatibility issues with my RAM said by Asus distributor, I exchanged this with A7N8X-X.
- AGP display card (Asus Radeon a9200se)

More Info:
Hardware:
- CPU: AMD Althon XP 2500+
- On-board sound card
- I only use one PCI, ie Ethernet network 10/100Mbps card.
- I use high-end HE-420 power supply unit (3 fans, max watt: 500)
- I don't have any USB or SCSI hard drive to my computer.

Software:
- Wins XP Pro SP1
- Norton SystemWorks 2005 (including Utilities, Anti-Virus, CleanSweep)

Other Issues:
- I never overclock anything
- IRQ issue: Asus technicans once said the sharing nature of IRQ is not a problem when we are using Wins XP. I don’t know if they are correct. Anyway I posted my IRQ table at the end of my post.
- I think I don't have overheating, insufficient pwoersupply problems.


Use programs to pinpoint the cause of trouble!!
Then I decided to run other stability/stress/benchmark tests. The programs I ran were:
- 3d mark 2001 SE (Passed. 4100-4300 marks. I've run for several times.)
- 3d mark 03 (Passed. 631 mark)
- Mother Monitor 5.3.7.0 (Below 50 degree. Voltage is stable.)
- Prime95 23.8.1
(http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm)
[Blend-mode stress test, with custom RAM usage (750-800MB). I've run for 3 times:
1st - 2 hrs. 1 error: 6BC84F91, expected E91EEB5A
2nd - 9 hrs. STOP code: DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (d1). Details shown in next paragraph
3rd - 5 hrs. No error.]


How did the STOP code occur
It was the second time I ran Prime95. The programs I was running at that time:
- Norton Anti-virus 2005 (Scheduled full-system virus scan)
- Zone Alarm 5.5
- Prime 95 23.8.1
- Motherboard Monitor 5.3.7.0
- Yahoo Messenger &/or ICQ (Not sure if I was running either, or both)
- Windows Messenger (It just stayed i the system tray, and couldn't turn off. I didn't use it at all)

The PF usage: about 0.96GB (I got 1GB RAM)

When Norton scheduled full-system virus scan had been run for about 30 mins, a STOP code DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (d1) occurred. A full memory dump was generated. I used Windows debugging tools to check the dump file. The analysis is at the end of my post.

Q:
Does anyone know which causes the problems of the memtest errors, and the STOP code?
Is it possible for a faulty driver to cause my computer failed to pass all memory tests in memtest?

Tell me if you need more information. :)


===================================
Attachment:
- Memory Dump Analysis
- IRQ Table

Memory Dump Analysis
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.4.0004.4
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights
reserved.


Loading Dump File [C:\WINDOWS\MEMORY.DMP]
Kernel Complete Dump File: Full address space is
available

Symbol search path is:
SRV*c:\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;C:/WINDOWS/Symbols
Executable search path is:
Windows XP Kernel Version 2600 (Service Pack 1) UP
Free x86 compatible
Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS
Built by: 2600.xpsp2.040919-1003
Kernel base = 0x804d5000 PsLoadedModuleList =
0x80550dd0
Debug session time: Fri Dec 24 21:11:06.593 2004
(GMT+8)
System Uptime: 0 days 11:24:52.197
Loading Kernel Symbols
.............................................................................................................................
Loading unloaded module list
................
Loading User Symbols
*******************************************************************************
*
*
* Bugcheck Analysis
*
*
*
*******************************************************************************

Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

BugCheck D1, {ff4d8d4e, 2, 0, ff4d8d4e}

*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found. Defaulted
to export symbols for SYMTDI.SYS -
Probably caused by : SYMTDI.SYS (
SYMTDI!DisconnectTCPSession+1da9 )

Followup: MachineOwner
---------

kd> !analyze -v
*******************************************************************************
*
*
* Bugcheck Analysis
*
*
*
*******************************************************************************

DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (d1)
An attempt was made to access a pageable (or
completely invalid) address at an
interrupt request level (IRQL) that is too high. This
is usually
caused by drivers using improper addresses.
If kernel debugger is available get stack backtrace.
Arguments:
Arg1: ff4d8d4e, memory referenced
Arg2: 00000002, IRQL
Arg3: 00000000, value 0 = read operation, 1 = write
operation
Arg4: ff4d8d4e, address which referenced memory

Debugging Details:
------------------


READ_ADDRESS: ff4d8d4e Nonpaged pool

CURRENT_IRQL: 2

FAULTING_IP:
+ffffffffff4d8d4e
ff4d8d4e ?? ???

DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: DRIVER_FAULT

BUGCHECK_STR: 0xD1

LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from 084df1d9 to 8052ee23

SYMBOL_ON_RAW_STACK: 1

STACK_TEXT:
f7c72c98 084df1d9 0000000a f74d8d4e 00000002
nt!KeBugCheckEx+0x19
WARNING: Frame IP not in any known module. Following
frames may be wrong.
f7c72cb4 862e6af8 002e6af8 862e6af8 ffc72ce0 0x84df1d9
ff00005f 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0x862e6af8


STACK_COMMAND: dds @$csp ; kb

FAILED_INSTRUCTION_ADDRESS:
+ffffffffff4d8d4e
ff4d8d4e ?? ???

FOLLOWUP_IP:
SYMTDI!DisconnectTCPSession+1da9
b2f7ba38 55 push ebp

FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner

SYMBOL_NAME: SYMTDI!DisconnectTCPSession+1da9

MODULE_NAME: SYMTDI

IMAGE_NAME: SYMTDI.SYS

DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 41705aad

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:
0xD1_CODE_AV_BAD_IP_SYMTDI!DisconnectTCPSession+1da9

BUCKET_ID:
0xD1_CODE_AV_BAD_IP_SYMTDI!DisconnectTCPSession+1da9

Followup: MachineOwner
---------
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

IRQ
Resources---Device---Status
IRQ 0 System Clock OK
-
-
IRQ 3 [Ã
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Postby Wai_Wai » Tue 28 Dec, 2004 10:07 am

The updated bits:
Memtest told me my computer failed
Recently I ran memtest86 v3.1a (http://www.memtest86.com/). I found some errors in some tests. The details are as follows:

Test 1: RAM A in DIMM1
I have run memtest for several times.
No error.

Test 2: RAM B in DIMM1
I have run memtest for several times.
No error.

Test 3: RAM A in DIMM2, RAM B in DIMM3
I have run memtest for several times.
Errors were sometimes detected, sometimes not.
Errors were found in test 5. 2-4 errors were once found, ranging from 996-1021MB
Errors were found in test 8. 2 errors were once found, in 1002.8 and 1017.3MB respectively.

Test 4: RAM B in DIMM2, RAM A in DIMM3
I have run memtest once.
Errors were detected!
Errors were found in test 10. 9 errors were found, ranging from 535-723MB.

From the above results, what implications could we draw?
I don't think the problems lies on DIMM slots, or it should give rise to a lot of errors, right?

I just don't know whether my RAM are faulty or not.
Should I ask the manufacturer for RAM replacement?
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