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The SCO vs Linux situation . . .

Postby Edward » Thu 07 Aug, 2003 4:55 pm

Thought I would start a thread on the current happenings in the Linux world, with respect to SCO filing the lawsuit against IBM.

IBM filed a counterclaim today, story is here, indicating since SCO distributed a version of Linux under the General Public LIcense (GPL), SCO cannot claim Linux is proprietary.

Red Hat has also filed a lawsuit against SCO, and SuSE Linux [url=http://www.suse.com/us/company/press/press_releases/archive03/sco_redhat.html]
issued a press release[/url] in support of Red Hat.

Anyone care to add their throughts about this entire debacle?
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Postby Lorraine » Sat 09 Aug, 2003 10:44 pm

I would Edward, but I really don't know very much about Linux.
I did read an article yesterday that Microsoft is suing Lindows as the name is too similar to Windows. I thought that was funny...lol

Also in the U.S. Walmart is selling computers for $499.00 with Linux and Lindows.

Should be quite interesting.
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Re: The SCO vs Linux situation . . .

Postby Fulvio » Sat 09 Aug, 2003 10:55 pm

Edward wrote:Thought I would start a thread on the current happenings in the Linux world, with respect to SCO filing the lawsuit against IBM.

IBM filed a counterclaim today, story is here, indicating since SCO distributed a version of Linux under the General Public LIcense (GPL), SCO cannot claim Linux is proprietary.

Red Hat has also filed a lawsuit against SCO, and SuSE Linux [url=http://www.suse.com/us/company/press/press_releases/archive03/sco_redhat.html]
issued a press release[/url] in support of Red Hat.

Anyone care to add their throughts about this entire debacle?


Let me put it this way. I have Linux on my computer, but no thanks to SCO, it is nearly unusable. I hope they get it.
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Re: The SCO vs Linux situation . . .

Postby Antony » Sun 10 Aug, 2003 2:13 am

Edward wrote:Thought I would start a thread on the current happenings in the Linux world, with respect to SCO filing the lawsuit against IBM.

IBM filed a counterclaim today, story is here, indicating since SCO distributed a version of Linux under the General Public LIcense (GPL), SCO cannot claim Linux is proprietary.

Red Hat has also filed a lawsuit against SCO, and SuSE Linux [url=http://www.suse.com/us/company/press/press_releases/archive03/sco_redhat.html]
issued a press release[/url] in support of Red Hat.

Anyone care to add their throughts about this entire debacle?
Let me add a bit of background information...
SCO seeks at least $1 billion in damages from IBM's alleged breach of its contract with SCO; another $1 billion for breach of the Unix contract signed by Sequent, which IBM acquired in 1999; and another $1 billion for unfair competition. SCO also seeks more for misappropriation of trade secrets and punitive damages.
The amended suit also asserts that SCO holds copyrights to Unix, a point that could be key in future Linux and Unix litigation. Novell, which owned Unix intellectual property before selling it to SCO's predecessor, initially disputed SCO's ownership, but later relented.
(SCO sued IBM for $3 billion for alleged copying of proprietary Unix intellectual property into Linux, News.com)

Please note that Unix is not open source, Linux is open source and distributed under General Public License (GPL)
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Postby DJGM » Sun 10 Aug, 2003 3:09 am

Here's a couple of related articles courtesy of TheRegister . . .

SCO still offers 'infringing' Linux source code:
http://theregister.co.uk/content/61/32233.html

IBM sues SCO for selling Linux:
http://theregister.co.uk/content/61/32233.html
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Postby Edward » Sun 24 Aug, 2003 7:45 pm

Not a day goes by now, when this isn't in the news somewhere...
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Postby Antony » Wed 03 Sep, 2003 12:22 am

SCO in August that it wants corporations to buy Unix licenses for using the similar Linux operating system, asking $699 for a single-processor Linux server. But Tuesday, SCO spokesman Blake Stowell said the company will begin the more active approach of sending invoices requesting payment to commercial Linux users, "probably some time this month."

"SCO continues to use tactics of brinkmanship, and it is certainly possible that the companies that get invoices could become future defendants," Stacey Quandt, an independent Linux analyst, said.

Detail... SCO to send out Linux invoices (C|net News.com)
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Postby Mandrake » Wed 03 Sep, 2003 5:18 am

Why doesn't IBM just buy The SCO Group Inc. ?
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Postby Antony » Mon 08 Mar, 2004 11:55 pm

So was following the story?
  1. IBM Licensed Unix from SCO
  2. IBM develop an additional codes into the Unix for AIX.
  3. SCO claimed everything IBM coded will go under derived work which means IBM CAN NOT release the code even IBM is the developer of those codes.
  4. IBM gave the code they(IBM) created for AIX unix to the Linux community.
  5. SCO claim that those codes are not supposed to be shared, IBM have a different view, IBM code it, they(IBM) feels they have the right over the codes they develop (in common sense, yes)
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Postby Edward » Tue 09 Mar, 2004 8:08 pm

If you want your dose of SCO, check out Groklaw. It's a weblog that follows the SCO case.
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Postby Antony » Fri 15 Jul, 2005 5:48 am

Let's re-check this case...

SCO sued IBM in 2003 for more than US$1 billion, alleging that IBM had misappropriated Unix technology to which SCO claimed intellectual property rights. SCO also billed a few companies for using Linux operating system, one of popular dedicated server hosting companies, Rackspace, is believed that has SCO an undisclosure amount of money in license fee..

However an email showed that there were no evidences of UNIX code at all.
SCO e-mail: No 'smoking gun' in Linux code (C|net, News.com 14.7.2005):
The e-mail, which was sent to SCO Group CEO Darl McBride by a senior vice president at the company, forwards on an e-mail from a SCO engineer. In the Aug. 13, 2002, e-mail, engineer Michael Davidson said "At the end, we had found absolutely nothing ie (sic) no evidence of any copyright infringement whatsoever."

More store: SCO e-mail: No 'smoking gun' in Linux code (C|net, News.com 14.7.2005)
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