SillyDog701

[Alice]

Hmmm. The Edit button is missing from my post above, ....but not from a post I just made to the Netscape, Mozilla, and Firefox forum.

Curiouser and curiouser.

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[Antony]

Antony, why did you register ufaq.net in the first place; and why didn't you tell Jay? Please answer the questions.

Did you read this thread? Only the last few pages would do.

You stated why you redirected UFAQ.net, but [not] why you registered it in the first place, nor have you answered why you didn't tell Jay about it's existence.

If you expect anyone to take you seriously, they should be given all the facts. Otherwise, any opinions on the issue would be uneducated ones.

And you've ignored once again the main issue. OR perhaps you are trying to shift the focus.

The main things are...
1. Jay used sillydog701.org, sillydog.us and sillydog.info to point to his UFAQ.org.
2. UFAQ.net has been redirecting to UFAQ.org after it's initial parking (for doing nothing).
3. Jay demanded me to apologise to someone who cybersquatted SillyDog701.

The registering of UFAQ.net was not a secret, but you have to comment on Jay's unethical behaviour first.

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[Alice]

Antony, I just sent you a PM.

I encourage all to do the same and to stop this embarrassing public display.

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[Ramona]

I would encourage all to let Antony and Jay work this out between themselves, and to not interfere in an issue that is of no concern to them.

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[Antony]

Antony, I just sent you a PM.

I encourage all to do the same and to stop this embarrassing public display.

Do you prefer me to answer in PM or in public?

I said, it was not a secret. There's absolutely nothing to be ashamed of on my part.

However, Mr Jay Garcia cybersquatted SillyDog701, and used sillydog701.org, sillydog.info and sillydog.us for the benefit of his UFAQ.org. Couldn't you see the contrast?

Plus, he demanded me to apologise to someone who cybersquatted SillyDog701.

Who's to be ashamed of?

So Alice, may I have you opinion on Mr Jay Garcia's unethical behaviour?

And to ChrisI,
"nor have you answered why you didn't tell Jay about it's existence."
Why should I inform Jay Garcia first? I did not and do not use UFAQ.net for any benefits towards SillyDog701, unlike Mr Garcia.

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[Alice]

Antony,

You can reply about the loss of the EDIT function in public, if you wish. All the rest to PM.

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[Antony]

Antony,

You can reply about the loss of the EDIT function in public, if you wish. All the rest to PM.

You are not commenting on Mr Jay Garcia's unethical behaviour? Including used those cybersquatted domains for his benefits and demanded me to apologise to someone who cybersquatted SillyDog701.

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[ChrisI]

Ramona;
I know you meant well, but Antony never wanted to work this out with Jay. When he saw the domains Jay had registered, he never contacted Jay privately. Instead, he posted in his own forums, which Jay doesn't read. It took a third party just to pass along the URL of this discussion to Jay. As I said in a previous post, Antony believes UFAQ.org to be an adversary of Sillydog.org. His intent was to bad mouth the UFAQ, in hopes of drawing the cross-over member base more toward Sillydog. That's why he keeps insisting people comment on Jay's actions. Heck, Alice could have posted the answer to the meaning of life, and Antony still would have replied with "You are not commenting on Mr Jay Garcia's unethical behaviour?" For him, it's imperative that Sillydog members are bothered with this.

Antony;
If you expect anyone to comment, you need to answer their questions regarding the story. If you really had nothing to hide, you would have told people why you registered UFAQ.net, when you were asked about it. The longer you avoid answering it, the more sceptical people are going to be of your motives.

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[Antony]

Ramona;
I know you meant well, but Antony never wanted to work this out with Jay. When he saw the domains Jay had registered, he never contacted Jay privately. Instead, he posted in his own forums, which Jay doesn't read.

you don't need to direct to Ramona if you have comment on me.
It is SillyDog701's responsibility to inform users about the situation and the correct URL.

I never wanted to work what out with Jay? What?
Are you trying to persuade me follow what Jay demanded, tender an apology to someone who cybersquatted SillyDog701?

Antony believes UFAQ.org to be an adversary of Sillydog.org. His intent was to bad mouth the UFAQ, in hopes of drawing the cross-over member base more toward Sillydog.

that's complete untrue.
Nothing could be further from the truth as UFAQ.org and Jay Garcia have been the main group supporting the Netscape community and I have always had good things to say about UFAQ.org, Jay's knowledge and his support to the community. (Except me being banned and his unethical cybersquatting of SillyDog701.)

Excepting banning me and this unacceptable cybersquatting issue, there's no bad words regarding UFAQ.org. No links to UFAQ.org have been banned at all, unlike the SillyDog701 link which has been disappeared from UFAQ.org's links section a few times.

For him, it's imperative that Sillydog members are bothered with this.

What a joke. it was just an announcement. There's no need to have a so-called neutral observer then admitted to be on Jay's side using the very same IP Jay is using trying to tell me to take Jay's offer presented after a series of insults and even highlighting Jay's insulting footnote (or disclaimer). Worried that I might miss that out?

Antony;
If you expect anyone to comment, you need to answer their questions regarding the story. If you really had nothing to hide, you would have told people why you registered UFAQ.net, when you were asked about it. The longer you avoid answering it, the more sceptical people are going to be of your motives.

Why is that so hard for you to comment on Jay's unethical behaviour?

I already said, there's no secret about that.

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[Antony]

A message sent by Mr Jay Garcia,

Also, YOU "CyberSquatted" UFAQ.NET long before I "CyberSquatted"
SillyDog701. Why don't you answer that one??

UFAQ.net has never been redirected or linked to any SillyDog701 websites.
In fact it has been redirected to (or now linked to) UFAQ.org

Mr Jay Garcia bought sillydog.info, sillydog.us and sillydog701.org and all redirected (pointed) to his UFAQ.org until I made SillyDog701 users aware. that was cybersquattiing.

FACT: Mr Jay Garcia used sillydog.info, sillydog.us and sillydog701.org for benefits for his UFAQ.org.

FACT: No benefits from UFAQ.net has been passed to SillyDog701, however, Mr Jay Garcia said that Antony has "something up his sleeve", but the fact is that I had providing FREE redirecting to UFAQ.org as a courtesy.

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[Antony]

Jay Garcia (Jay@*********.com) on Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 17:57:49
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Message_Body: You said:

UFAQ.net has never been redirected or linked to any SillyDog701
websites.

You're missing the point, Antony. You registered UFAQ.NET knowing full
well that I owned UFAQ.ORG. You CyberSquatted UFAQ, doesn't matter what
you did with it, you CyberSquatted it, period.

Ok, you're redirecting UFAQ.NET and you don't call this CyberSquatting.
Therefore, since I am redirecting SillyDog701.org I am not
CyberSquatting any longer either. We're both redirecting, so how can
only one of us be CyberSquatting. Either we are or we're not.

Smart on shifting attention.

Mr Jay Garcia smartly enough to register 3 domains containing "sillydog", and until 9th May, all those domains have been redirected to UFAQ.org. Mr Garcia used SillyDog701's popularity for his UFAQ.org. cybersquatting.

UFAQ.net has never redirected to any SillyDog701 contents. The difference? UFAQ.net has been redirecting to UFAQ.org for a very long period of time, and now links to UFAQ.org (only). This is a courtesy from Antony Shen. And he call this cybersquatting?
Does he call UFAQ.com cybersquatting as well?

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[JayGarcia]

Too humorous to pass this one up:

"Antony Shen CyberSquats SillyDog", note the dates of domain registration: (odd coincidence isn't it)

Domain Name: SILLYDOG.NET
Created on 26-Oct-2000
Administrative Contact:
Michelle Laflamme-Childs
Santa Fe, NM

Domain Name:SILLYDOG.ORG
Created On:06-Feb-2001
Antony Shen

Domain Name: SILLYDOG.COM
Created on: 13-Jun-02
Antony Shen

Please note that "CyberSquatting" has nothing to do with "Redirection" as you have to "register" the domain BEFORE you do anything with it. They are NOT related. I think I'll contact Michelle to see what she wants to do about this ...

Jay

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[Antony]

Please note that "CyberSquatting" has nothing to do with "Redirection" as you have to "register" the domain BEFORE you do anything with it. They are NOT related. I think I'll contact Michelle to see what she wants to do about this ...

Jay

Nice try, Jay.

However you registered sillydog.info, sillydog.us and sillydog701.org and used them for UFAQ.org which provides a great service and in the same field as SillyDog701 ( sillydog.org ).

UFAQ.org is a great site, and I always admire UFAQ.org and Jay Garcia, however, I really can't figure out why UFAQ.org needed to use domain names consisting exact spelling of sillydog.org to get additional traffic.

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[JayGarcia]

Total hits for both sillydog.us and sillydog.info since they were registered up to today is 57, hardly anything significant as compared to the 60,000+ hits daily for ufaq.org. Nice try Antony. And only about 20% of those were actually redirected to ufaq.org, nice try Antony. BIG TIME kidnapping going on here, somebody please call the Internet Police ..

Michelle registered Sillydog first in October of 2000. You registered Sillydog in February of 2001. I copied her domain name, not yours. You copied hers also. I guess we're both "Cybersquatting" in that case. I hear the Internet Police siren ... oooo eeee oooo eeee ... oh ohhh.

Offer still stands to do an even swap, Sillydog701.org for UFAQ.NET

Jay

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[Antony]

Total hits for both sillydog.us and sillydog.info since they were registered up to today is 57,

and you missed the UFAQ.org's traffic gain from sillydog701.org.

And that's really interesting, since the name "sillydog" won't generate UFAQ.org much traffic, why bother?

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