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Linux (Knoppix - Bootable CD): Hang During Startup

Postby Wolfey » Sun 30 May, 2004 7:49 pm

It's been two years or so since I've messed around with Linux (in college, and that was with Red Hat 7 - This is also when I found out about Mozilla :D), and I thought it might be a good thing for me to mess around with it again, at least for the experience :)

In my case, I've got a CD with Knoppix 3.4 on it, and I'm trying to get my old computer to use it as a bootable CD. I've managed to change the settings in BIOS so that it'll try booting from the CD first, and I got that part to work...But I'm still unable to boot into Linux.

It got up to the line:
Scanning for Harddisk partitions and creating /etc/fstab...

And just locked up after that :(

If anyone can help me get this problem figured out, I'd greatly appreciate it :D

(Also...Are there any other Linux distributions [ones with bootable CDs] that I should take a look at? Just wondering about this.)
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Postby Antony » Sun 30 May, 2004 11:44 pm

Wolfey,
I haven't tried any bootable Linux myself, I can't help you on particular issue.
However, back in year 2000, I had a problem installing Windows 2000 (original legal CD). The reason for that was the DVD-ROM I had (Sony) couldn't read CD correctly... So, I would suggest you to make sure your CD/DVD reader is not faulty and the Linux CD is a good copy.
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Postby Andrew T. » Mon 31 May, 2004 12:12 am

Hi Wolfey,

I have tried out a bootable Knoppix CD myself (version 3.3). From my experience I will say that it can be slow to boot, and depending on the computer it sometimes will spend extended periods of time on certain steps or processes during the boot process, during which it can appear to freeze for minutes on end, and if I remember correctly the keyboard might have been disabled throughout the boot process as well.
Additionally, I stumbled across a series of archived messages from a Debian user mailing list regarding this problem. This particular user's problem was resolved by adding the command "knoppix nodma" at the boot prompt.
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Postby Jeffredo » Mon 31 May, 2004 11:38 am

Hello Wolfey. I tried Knoppix for the first time last night. It did boot right up for me in just a couple of minutes, but I have a fairly new PC with 1 gig of RAM (and I understand the availability of lots of free RAM is the best speed up for Knoppix). It was my fist experience with Linux and I tried Knoppix because of it's "no commitment" bootable CD. While looking into such distros I saw several good reviews of Mepis (also boots from CD with the option to install to your hard drive). I may give it a try as well.

http://www.mepis.org/
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Postby Wolfey » Mon 31 May, 2004 7:25 pm

Antony wrote:However, back in year 2000, I had a problem installing Windows 2000 (original legal CD). The reason for that was the DVD-ROM I had (Sony) couldn't read CD correctly... So, I would suggest you to make sure your CD/DVD reader is not faulty and the Linux CD is a good copy.

To be honest, I wondered for awhile if this could be caused by bad hardware - The primary CD-ROM drive on that computer sometimes doesn't open/close properly, or when it's reading a disk, it'll sometimes just slow down, nearly stopping, for no reason - I've had to restart programs (or even Windows) quite a few times because of this :(

As for the disk, it appeared to be just fine - There wasn't a problem with it at all. Also, had I not read the following reply from Andrew (or, later in the day, tried it out on a relative's computer [another reason for having a bootable CD handy ;)]), I would've seriously considered checking out the hardware to see if the problem was there.

But thank you anyway for suggesting to check that out, Antony :)

Andrew T. wrote:Additionally, I stumbled across a series of archived messages from a Debian user mailing list regarding this problem. This particular user's problem was resolved by adding the command "knoppix nodma" at the boot prompt.

Thank you! I tried booting it up again, typing in that line before pressing Enter this time, and I had no problem booting into Knoppix :D

Once it was finished loading, I had to change the screen resolution - That, however, was due to a problem with my monitor (the screen started "waving" left and right when I moved the mouse - decreasing the resolution fixed the problem).

There was a similar case with my relative's computer (an HP Pavilion, and it mentioned about an "unknown mode" while booting up - I can't remember what the exact message was, though :oops:), although I didn't need to type in "knoppix nodma" in that case - I didn't know what mode to select, so I just let it go...And it had no trouble booting up (without any "waving", unlike with my monitor).

Again, thank you for helping me get Knoppix working here, Andrew - I greatly appreciate it 8-)

Jeffredo wrote:Hello Wolfey. I tried Knoppix for the first time last night. It did boot right up for me in just a couple of minutes, but I have a fairly new PC with 1 gig of RAM (and I understand the availability of lots of free RAM is the best speed up for Knoppix). It was my fist experience with Linux and I tried Knoppix because of it's "no commitment" bootable CD. While looking into such distros I saw several good reviews of Mepis (also boots from CD with the option to install to your hard drive). I may give it a try as well.

It's a little slow here...But that's understandable, since it's being run on an old computer [Pentium II, 400 MHz] with only 128 MB of RAM, and via the CD-ROM drive as well. Excluding the monitor issue (which I'm not blaming Knoppix for), it's worked rather well so far :)

I've only messed around with it for a short while, but compared to the last time I've used any distribution of Linux, it's come quite a long way since then :)
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